[Feedback] : Benchmark v1.1 - Fem Veena

[Milucca]

Hi, I wanted to share my thoughts and feelings on the updated benchmark (v1.1) which are... mixed, i guess ? And invite fellow fem Veena players and overall Viera players to discuss present changes ! I'm pretty new to the game/forum so I hope this post looks decent enough

So below should be screenshots of my WoL in :

1) 6.58



2) v1.1 Updated benchmark



I see a pretty big difference, some aspects are better but as this is meant to be a constructive critique, I'd rather state what I don't like about the updated version of the benchmark. Let's start with the eyes ! The most jarring change is the smaller pupil size, which looks more jarring since my character has light colored eyes. It's the only thing I'm kinda bummed about, as it's part of the reason I chose Veena rather than Rava. Overall eye shape also changed, I liked the longer eyelashes on the outer corner but yeah :/ She looks skinnier to me but idk.

Lips and nose are slightly different but more defined ? I'm indifferent to them and I still like the new look of them. Some aspects of the hair is improved but the color... is just grey ? when there are clear darker highlights currently. The skin texture and general lightening are much much better though ! I tried darker eye colors and that seems to do the trick, downsizing of the pupils is less obvious and so my character looks better.


TDLR : Sad to see some unique Veena characteristics go, such as the more "innocent" bigger pupils, the eye shape change, face shape changed.


This is a long post already, please discuss and share images of your own characters!! And thank you devs for working so hard !

[Cherrizini]

I think even with the change, Veena pupils are still smaller than they are in current game. They used to be as small as Rava last Benchmark and I am glad they fixed them, but they still need some tweaks. I also had to make my WoL eyes darker because they looked kinda spooked lol

I think my main issue with viera right now are the lips. Face 3 was hit really bad last benchmark, and it makes me sad they forgot to fix the lips. They make their faces look too stoic. I picked face 3 because it reminds me of a dollface and the new lips are something that truly bothers me. I think you can notice the change in lips 2 and 4 the most. Lips 4 used to have a lil smile and now it is gone, and lips 2 lowerlip is too puffy. If they don't change it I may just fanta to get lip 1, but lips 2 were so pretty and now they look like they were stung by a bee.

From all the changes to veena, face 4 got it the worst. Their lips are too wide for their faces.

As for face 1, some eyes are missing eyelashes and the eyeliner is a bit off.

[Lily_Bun]

I think even with the change, Veena pupils are still smaller than they are in current game. They used to be as small as Rava last Benchmark and I am glad they fixed them, but they still need some tweaks. I also had to make my WoL eyes darker because they looked kinda spooked lol

I think my main issue with viera right now are the lips. Face 3 was hit really bad last benchmark, and it makes me sad they forgot to fix the lips. They make their faces look too stoic. I picked face 3 because it reminds me of a dollface and the new lips are something that truly bothers me. I think you can notice the change in lips 2 and 4 the most. Lips 4 used to have a lil smile and now it is gone, and lips 2 lowerlip is too puffy. If they don't change it I may just fanta to get lip 1, but lips 2 were so pretty and now they look like they were stung by a bee.

I agree completely. My Bunny girl doesn't look as happy as she used to. I definitely see much improvement to how she looked in first benchmark but her lips are still not where I'd like them to be. She looks more serious now rather than gently smiling like before.

Here is the current in game version:


And this is the new benchmark:

[LittleArrow]

I posted this in the general updated benchmark thread, but I'll post it here since it's specific for Veena Female.

I'm not going to pull up pictures anymore, because at this point I think it just is what it is. My character does not look the same. I don't understand the art direction with just rounding and smoothing out every single sharp angle / line in the female veena viera. My character no longer has a sharper jawline with soft eyes, her entire face looks swollen much like she's having an allergic reaction. The corners of her mouth have a very bizarre shading that looks like her cheeks are pouching out past her lips. Also, I still don't understand why they made their pupils small like the Rava, but it totally changed the mood / feel of my character.

I believe the artstyle follows along with the same designs of the FF16 models. A very bizarre cross between the classic anime with sharp angles (FF7 rebirth) and Inside Out Pixar (just round everything).

Anyways, I apologize for being negative. I've seen lots of beautiful screenshots and many models in the new benchmark look great. My character was just not one of them, sadly.

[Nayal]

You guys have a lot of free time

[Milucca]

I think my main issue with viera right now are the lips. Face 3 was hit really bad last benchmark, and it makes me sad they forgot to fix the lips. They make their faces look too stoic. I picked face 3 because it reminds me of a dollface and the new lips are something that truly bothers me. I think you can notice the change in lips 2 and 4 the most. Lips 4 used to have a lil smile and now it is gone, and lips 2 lowerlip is too puffy. If they don't change it I may just fanta to get lip 1, but lips 2 were so pretty and now they look like they were stung by a bee.

From all the changes to veena, face 4 got it the worst. Their lips are too wide for their faces.

I agree with everything you said, from what I've seen face 4 really got the short end of the stick. And the bee stung effect isn't really desirable either...

I posted this in the general updated benchmark thread, but I'll post it here since it's specific for Veena Female.

I'm not going to pull up pictures anymore, because at this point I think it just is what it is. My character does not look the same. I don't understand the art direction with just rounding and smoothing out every single sharp angle / line in the female veena viera. My character no longer has a sharper jawline with soft eyes, her entire face looks swollen much like she's having an allergic reaction. The corners of her mouth have a very bizarre shading that looks like her cheeks are pouching out past her lips. Also, I still don't understand why they made their pupils small like the Rava, but it totally changed the mood / feel of my character.

I believe the artstyle follows along with the same designs of the FF16 models. A very bizarre cross between the classic anime with sharp angles (FF7 rebirth) and Inside Out Pixar (just round everything).

Anyways, I apologize for being negative. I've seen lots of beautiful screenshots and many models in the new benchmark look great. My character was just not one of them, sadly.

I don't think you should apologize and I'm happy you guys responded. This post was created so we'd have a space dedicated to Viera players. The artstyle changes were not expected so it's only normal to feel disappointed when they don't match our personal preferences. SE says they value players' input so we should still speak our mind. I still do hope some of the more drastic tweaks (pupil size, puffiness and lips!) can be reverted sometime in the future.

You guys have a lot of free time

...and you sound sour ! Maybe you should spend some time in the benchmark character creation seeing how your character looks now, though i don't know it could get any worse

[Taliriah]

Alternate Veena player (using same face/eyes) opinion: the new version is much better, including the eyes which dont look dead af anymore.