Please focus on giving console players more hotbar space, instead of removing actions

[velswen]

Yeah, got to love the button fetishists.

What actually matters for good combat is flow and sound design. Not the amount of button one has.

Sound design has literally nothing to do with how many decisions go into playing your job.

[GrizzlyTank]

Sound design has literally nothing to do with how many decisions go into playing your job.

Don't underestimate the effect of good sound design. It really turns what might very well be something generic into something that feels good to use.

[Rudje]

Don't underestimate the effect of good sound design. It really turns what might very well be something generic into something that feels good to use.

...Wrong meaning of sound. "Sound design" is being used in the original post being quoted to mean "healthy and working", as in a "sound horse" or a "sound limb".

Anyway we don't need even more buttons available and I don't know why you'd want even more buttons. E: For transparency: I use m+kb, I'm still good on button count.

[velswen]

I feel like we need to have a discussion about why people think more skills equals more better.


We don't need 36+ skills that are used.


That's too much. Make it 20 and make them actually matter.

No. Make it 36+ that actually matter. More skills that are more interesting is better.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

No. Make it 36+ that actually matter. More skills that are more interesting is better.

Because you dilute the impact of each skill the more there are.

Also, you reduce the ability for broader audiences to play.

[Graveyardprincess]

Because you dilute the impact of each skill the more there are.

Also, you reduce the ability for broader audiences to play.

says who plenty of chars ive made on skyrim have like 37, and dnd characters if a caster have a ton of spells without it diluting lol

Pvp has 10 skills and its gameplay is infinitely more complex than the pve bloat we have. Why tf is there stil a 123 combo for so many jobs ?

you know what makes it more complex? Its simply PEOPLE thats it the computers the combat the battle fights are so brain dead and simplified pattern that it cant be complex lol pvp cant be compared to pve due the fact players can't be predicted

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

says who plenty of chars ive made on skyrim have like 37, and dnd characters if a caster have a ton of spells without it diluting lol

You do not have 37 skills you are using at once in Skyrim. It is also a completely different game with a different combat design.

It doesn't sound like you actually do high end content in xiv, maybe try some of that first before commenting on combat design

[Avidria]

No. Make it 36+ that actually matter. More skills that are more interesting is better.

That sounds awful actually

[velswen]

I feel like we need to have a discussion about why people think more skills equals more better.


We don't need 36+ skills that are used.


That's too much. Make it 20 and make them actually matter.

I'm advocating for not removing more skills every expansion. Why do you want more skills to be removed? What benefit is there to taking away things people like?

[Sjol]

I'm advocating for not removing more skills every expansion. Why do you want more skills to be removed? What benefit is there to taking away things people like?

I have no particular attachment to any skill outside of animation. To me that would be like having an affinity for F# on a piano by itself. I only care about how they play together and how they flow into each other and how they feel when played as a unit.

In RPGs that allow training, I use it because something that might have made sense when your character was level 3, might not make sense anymore at level 12. It's okay for abilities to evolve and for them to be pruned from time to time. Design requires the ability to remove as much as the ability to add or change.