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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Don't have the motivation nor energy to do full comparison pics for today. But brief glance thru the new benchmark, I see that they've addressed aplenty of Male Middie Face 7 issues for the most part (kudos to them!). I am however still disappointed that they insisted on keeping the profound nasolabial folds on face 7 when from its inception since 6.0 it's been barely noticeable.

    I'm considering to switch back to face 5 now since apparently the new benchmark has toned down their nasolabial folds... but then I won't get to enjoy face 7's stubble :/

    Ugh... :smh:
    you get to choose between looking like 20 or 50 years lol
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    you get to choose between looking like 20 or 50 years lol
    I'm crying lmao ;;

    I mean... I guess that is exactly the reason behind their design choice. After all, when 6.0 came out conceiving face 7 middie, talks revolving around "why they just won't give face 5 the stubble option" wasn't uncommon. Which is... reasonable imho, considering today's face 7 is just "face 5 but stubble turned on"-face.

    But I really really, REALLY wish if this is the choice they're sticking with, at the very least, make that stubble from face 7 an option on one of face 5 facial feature. Lo behold, you get to have stubble as a 20-30 y.o AND 50 y.o.
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I'm crying lmao ;;

    I mean... I guess that is exactly the reason behind their design choice. After all, when 6.0 came out conceiving face 7 middie, talks revolving around "why they just won't give face 5 the stubble option" wasn't uncommon. Which is... reasonable imho, considering today's face 7 is just "face 5 but stubble turned on"-face.

    But I really really, REALLY wish if this is the choice they're sticking with, at the very least, make that stubble from face 7 an option on one of face 5 facial feature. Lo behold, you get to have stubble as a 20-30 y.o AND 50 y.o.
    See the thing is, they basically "fixed" the cheeks on face 5 now which makes him look even younger. Funnily enough, the face 5 in the og bench was the closest to the current which is gone now lol. I honestly cannot even tell why he looks like his personality changed... I feel like it's the eyes but I cannot point it out. Maybe it's the added realism to the style.

    It's especially visible on the wide shot


    Current --> Bench OG --> Bench v11





    current --> bench v11



    I get that it looks like an upgrade to most people so it's fine as it is but I'll just take the opportunity to start a new character arc with 7.0 (unless I feel like going back in time to look like a brand new adventurer again with face 5 haha)
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    See the thing is, they basically "fixed" the cheeks on face 5 now which makes him look even younger. Funnily enough, the face 5 in the og bench was the closest to the current which is gone now lol. I honestly cannot even tell why he looks like his personality changed... I feel like it's the eyes but I cannot point it out. Maybe it's the added realism to the style.

    It's especially visible on the wide shot[...]
    Few parts that immediately stands out to my eyes whether or not this may be relevant to your interpretation:
    1. His ala (aka nose's 'wings'; the side of his nose that connects to his cheeks) are larger on 6.58 compared to DT 2.0.
    2. Nasolabial folds (his cheeks folds) are more profound in DT 2.0.
    3. His eye shapes went from somewhat rounded almond to thinner almond eyes.

    Those same parts happen to be similar issues on my WoL. Face paint is applied to get a better look on the shapes. He comes with Face 7 - Eyebrows #2 - Eye Shape #5 - Nose #6:


    On top of that list, his eyebrow shape has been altered as well. Looking at how Face 5 got reverted makes me wanting to consider going back to Face 5... but for now I'll see whether I vibe with new Face 7 If not, well it's been a good ride since 6.0... At this point I doubt they'll change anything about it.

    Either add age slider or give Face 5 the option to use same stubble that Face 7 has.. that's all I want at this point lol.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-03-2024 at 08:17 PM.

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    KiraRavens's Avatar
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    Gabriel Caspian
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    Louisoix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Don't have the motivation nor energy to do full comparison pics for today. But brief glance thru the new benchmark, I see that they've addressed aplenty of Male Middie Face 7 issues for the most part (kudos to them!). I am however still disappointed that they insisted on keeping the profound nasolabial folds on face 7 when from its inception since 6.0 it's been barely noticeable.

    I'm considering to switch back to face 5 now since apparently the new benchmark has toned down their nasolabial folds... but then I won't get to enjoy face 7's stubble :/

    Ugh... :smh:
    EXACTLY this. I just spent 5 min switching back and forth between the two, wishing I could go for face 5 with the stubble...

    Why not just add stubble to the facial features, SE?
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    Cahlum's Avatar
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    Peanut Colada
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100

    EW > DT v1 > DT v1.1 > DT v1.1 with lighting on

    Much improved, eyebrows fixed, lip gloss fixed

    Open image in new tab and can zoom in easier.
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    Last edited by Cahlum; 06-03-2024 at 05:53 PM.

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    Romelia Muer
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 54
    Hi! I have some complaints, I would like the verts to move a little, so that the face shapes remain the same.
    1) Nose is very square compared to old one. And nose bridge shape is very rough. (It's type 3 nose)
    2) I would also like the shape of the lips to be close to what it was before - change shapekeys a bit, I think polycount allows it.
    3) Black hair color is not black + new hair lighting distorts some strands due to excessive shine.
    4) Not an issue but feels odd - eyes are too shiny now. Would be great to have something 50/50 from both Benchmarks.

    Skintone feels better now, tho I'd like to have "turn off SSS" option anyway.
    Thank you!


    https://imgur.com/a/Un3RD7e
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    Last edited by whitep; 06-04-2024 at 04:52 AM.

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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 98
    After remembering to turn the gamma to zero in bench I don't feel I even need filters from nvidia. I checked my Miqo'te, Au'ra, Highlander and Hrothgal selves and I would say I am loving all of them! Much improved for me personally. I haven't spotted any glaring bugs but I see a few of you have. Hopefully we can get further bugfixes and in the case of some faces their original look returned, that male miqo face turning smiley is a shame for example.
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    The bottom lip issue was fixed which is great but as I thought would happen the monkey paw curled and something I liked was changed for the worse. The makeup around the eye looked perfect and very badass in the first benchmark, but now the inner part has largely been removed in this new version and turned into a thin little smudge. I can live with it but that really sucks, I loved how it looked before.
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