Updated benchmark

[Loggos]

Edit because SchwarzwaelderTorte made an important point:

I'm very sorry to tell you this but it's because it hasn't been updated yet (go back a few pages and you'll find how you can check).
I'm still waiting for mine to update too, not really sure how the priority works.
I would be very careful with that kind of statement. (as I've already explained a while ago to someone who shall not be named to spare us all another headache)

You can't really draw conclusions on how different regions work, because we all only see a small fraction of a much bigger community, and within that small fraction you have extremely different ways of interacting with the forums, or social media and what the algorithm gives you etc.

What I was trying to say was not "the other side definitely thinks X" but rather that the devs take in feedback from many different communities who may or may not think differently from each other. So whatever happens is not just the result of the English speaking forum.

I did convey it very badly though since I made a lot of speculative assumptions I can't verify.

Old post for the sake of transparency:

I think one point that should not be forgotten in this whole discussion is that the Japanese side (and many other language communities) of the player base has (/have) also given a lot of feedback. And from what I remember (but please correct me if I'm wrong), their feedback on the forums during the 1.0 benchmark was a lot more damning than ours. It seems like there were some open calls to just flat out cancel the update.

I don't know if it has changed with 1.1 but it's important to keep in mind that different regions seem to have different opinions on the character changes (JPN was/still is(?) rather dissatisfied whereas the English speaking side seems to be rather mixed.)
And there also seem to be different opinions on certain aesthetics (not sure if this is true but I read that the JPN side preferred the sharp look of female Au Ra whereas Korean players preferred the new cute version).

All in all, the entirety of the feedback is very diverse and goes beyond what happens in our discussions, so whatever gets changed or ignored is not just based on our corner's feedback.

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

I've seen a couple lodestone comparisons and the fact that mine has not changed during downtime has been soothing to say the least.

I'm very sorry to tell you this but it's because it hasn't been updated yet (go back a few pages and you'll find how you can check).
I'm still waiting for mine to update too, not really sure how the priority works.

I don't know if it has changed with 1.1 but it's important to keep in mind that different regions seem to have different opinions on the character changes (JPN was/still is(?) rather dissatisfied whereas the English speaking side seems to be rather mixed.)

I would be very careful with that kind of statement. (as I've already explained a while ago to someone who shall not be named to spare us all another headache)
You can't really draw conclusions on how different regions work, because we all only see a small fraction of a much bigger community, and within that small fraction you have extremely different ways of interacting with the forums, or social media and what the algorithm gives you etc.

EDIT to add: To develop on that last point, the Japanese forums have had negative experiences of EN players barging in, asking questions, and then going back on the EN forums to say "see? they agree with me!" when it's impossible to make that kind of conclusion based on a small number of replies. I've seen the incident mentioned several times on their side so it seems to be something worth keeping in mind.

[Loggos]

I would be very careful with that kind of statement. (as I've already explained a while ago to someone who shall not be named to spare us all another headache)
You can't really draw conclusions on how different regions work, because we all only see a small fraction of a much bigger community, and within that small fraction you have extremely different ways of interacting with the forums, or social media and what the algorithm gives you etc.

Yeah this is a good point. Maybe I should edid/update the post (I'll leave the original in place though for transparency). The point I wanted to make was less "the other side definitely thinks X" but rather that the devs take in feedback from many different communities who may or may not think differently from each other. So whatever happens is not just the result of the English speaking forum.

But thank you for pointing out the problem with my post, I appreciate it!

[lunartears]

I'm very sorry to tell you this but it's because it hasn't been updated yet (go back a few pages and you'll find how you can check).
I'm still waiting for mine to update too, not really sure how the priority works.

I've admittedly been checking to see if it has changed quite frequently, so in my case it's more like a "calm before the storm".

I picked up on some characters changing immediately after the game went down so I think it really is entirely random.