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  1. #1
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte View Post
    They already did, though.
    No one has had to fantasia yet. If they were to make updates that completely change eyes, lips, facial features again, it would require everyone to fantasia again and again and again. It's not happening.
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    No one has had to fantasia yet. If they were to make updates that completely change eyes, lips, facial features again, it would require everyone to fantasia again and again and again. It's not happening.
    The changes people are asking for are generally all subtle in reality, and would still keep whatever option somebody chooses in 7.0 as their closest equivalent (god help me think of a less confusing way to word this).
    EXAMPLE: Your choice of upturned eye will still be upturned. Your choice of thick lips will still be thick. Etc. It's why the free fantasias aren't helping anybody who's unsatisfied.

    It is extremely possible to make a character's impression closer to the original while keeping the updated form. Look at the changes between male Viera from Benchmark 1.0 and 1.1. They're not exactly the same as 6.58, but with the adjustments they received, there's significantly less people complaining about them now.

    The results of adjusting to received feedback is less of a big deal than you think it is. A character will likely look better after receiving special attention; they'll just have a resting expression closer to the original.

    Also, dude, you speak way too confidently when they've straight up shown and now said time and time again that they're listening to feedback and applying what adjustments they can with what little time they're currently afforded.
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    Cid Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    In many cases I suspect that the people who like the updates are liking the overall vibe of increased textures while not noticing the finer details, and it's quite possible that the corrections being asked for would make the characters look even better in ways they hadn't realised were wrong.
    I noticed the finer details just fine and was quite pleased with them outside of an obvious bug. When the second benchmark released I discovered that a detail I really liked was completely removed because it was a little different from the original. That definitely did not look "even better," it looked worse. Now I'm nervous about what else is going to be made worse due to feedback, and I've seen some truly bizarre feedback on the face I use, so I can certainly empathize with others who feel that way.
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    Cheap Shot
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    No one has had to fantasia yet. If they were to make updates that completely change eyes, lips, facial features again, it would require everyone to fantasia again and again and again. It's not happening.
    In a sense I don’t disagree with you, but the only things we know with certainty are what the devs have said directly. One thing they’ve said is that its their intention to keep to the original look and feel of everyone’s characters as much as possible. Another thing they’ve said is they plan to keep taking feedback and making adjustments post release. It’s not out of the question that we’ll see more face changes, and personally I hope we do. Preserving the look of characters people have become attached to for up to 10 years in a subscription based game sounds like something that might be a priority.
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