Updated benchmark

[Larirawiel]

So all the stories where people's being stalked?

Is the stalking really a mass phenomenon? If not then it has nothing to do with "the FF14 community" because some mental sick individuals do something bad.




Cheers

[Evergrey]

Is the stalking really a mass phenomenon? If not then it has nothing to do with "the FF14 community" because some mental sick individuals do something bad.




Cheers

Well, I've seen more people post about that here than in WoW.
Or any other MMO for that matter.

And it's true that the commuity at whole isn't wrong.
Same goes for any game, even WoW.
There are more good people in WoW than bad.
But since it's always the worse that gets the attention that's how people outside views it.

[Irishfae]

((Cross posted with the Au Ra thread))

If this was posted already, apologies - I haven't come across it.
So, I'm still trying to make this work (still not happy, but trying) and came across horn 'issues'

1) For face 4, the horns now look even less like they are attached. (EW on left, New Bench on right)


1a) DT v11 with same angle as the EW one:


1b: Same angle as 1a, but with light setting two - the shadow is just... looks like her horns are burnt:


As you can see it was there in EW, but in DT it just looks even less like they are something that grew out of her head.

2) From the side. EW feels more blended and DT feels like it was just stuck on with the color and text vastly mis-matched. (Not saying EW was perfect, just saying it stood out less to me)


3) Xaela suffers from this as well, though far less obvious and very hard to see form the front side view:


4) Adding face 3 since their horns also sit on preexisting scales. Though they still look like they were an added afterthought, they don't have a really obvious ridge where they connect to her head.


5) There is also a very noticeable seam with the optional scales on the chin. It was there in EW, but I'm guessing the lower poly count actually helped it blend in a little better. Now it is a very distinct seam at the chin line.


I know this texture is vastly different (and harder to make seamless), but this is the equivalent of their ear, I feel like it shouldn't look pasted on and the optional scales should be seamless with the default ones.

I'm really missing the original 3 lip shape

[Iscah]

I've been trying to do comparisons of all my characters with the trailers. I'll try to get those properly organised tomorrow.

For tonight, one thing that has stood out to me is that while my face 3 Miqo'te in many ways looks very good in the new graphics, it is ruined (to me) by the addition of heavy eyeliner to a character who previously wore no makeup at all. It's out of character for him.

At a more general, less character-specific level, it creates a very fuzzy edge to the dark shadow under the eyelid, which previously just gave the impression of thick eyelashes, and I think it is detrimental to the look of the character.

Additionally, the length of the eyelashes has been much reduced, which I think is disappointing and it also further ruins the illusion of long, thick eyelashes created by the shadow under the eye. In the current appearance, when he shuts his eyes and you can see the long eyelashes clearly against his cheeks, it reinforces that impression that those long lashes are the cause of the shadow, when actually it's a lot of trickery going on with the model.

This also applies to G'raha since he uses the same face, so I'm worried about what he will look like too, and I believe it may have been applied to the other male Miqo'te faces but I haven't directly compared them yet.


Comparison of my character:



And as I have previously posted in another thread, a photoshopping of what I think actually needs to happen with the Miqo'te eyes - don't add blurry makeup, but fill in the missing part of the eye, and use the eyelashes to cast shadow on the eye.

Blue and yellow lines indicate the position of the eyelid and the edge of the visible eye surface in each image.

[Turnintino]

I believe the new lashes were just placed at a different angle than they were previously. You can see the way they curve outward at the outer corners of the eyes with a fair bit more length than those same areas had previously (there's some overlap with the lower lashes, of course, but those are still shorter than the upper, so it isn't their length we're looking at).

I don't believe this face suffers from the issues that face 4 and a couple of the female miqo'te faces (1 and 3, I believe?) have currently, where the lashes will clip through the lower lid during emotes like /reflect, so this was probably just an aesthetic choice. One probably made just because it's also G'raha's face lol. I can tell you face 4's lashes have seen no noticeable changes like 3's (other than that they now look more faint, sadly).

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

Just updating here that my report for the lalafell "resting frown" has been accepted.

Mine have been moved to "Insufficient Information"...?
I see you have a duplicate of your bug report in there, I'm not sure what exactly was different besides specifying the date and time the bug was occurring (which is entirely irrelevant???)

[Khryseis_Astra]

Just updating here that my report for the lalafell "resting frown" has been accepted.

If they put it in “accepted bugs,” does that mean that they consider it an error on the list to be fixed? Or just that they’re investigating it? (I’ve never submitted a bug report…)

Good thing you mentioned it will affect Tartaru, that probably made someone notice it more!

[Iscah]

Another day gone, another day closer to potentially losing some of my characters forever... I'm at the point of just frantically screenshotting my pile of glamours that I want to post on Eorzea Collection while I've still definitely got the characters to wear them.

Would there be any possibility at all of retaining the current graphics in some kind of legacy version of the game program that could be used instead of the updated version? Is it possible at a technical level, and would SE consider implementing it?

[Plushy]

Would there be any possibility at all of retaining the current graphics in some kind of legacy version of the game program that could be used instead of the updated version? Is it possible at a technical level, and would SE consider implementing it?

Is it possible? Yes. Would someone do it? Highly unlikely...mostly because why would you purposely want the ugly textures back in the game. I can understand your character model but textures like outfit? Someone would have to purposely create blurry, ugly and pixilated textures on purpose...for the newer outfits.
For your character though you can easily get that back to the 2.0 version but you would have to...do you know what to achieve that.

But.. I doubt SE would consider it since you're asking them to downscale textures which is quite honestly a waste of time to please a very, very small set of people and doing this you basically make it so those people never move on.

[Astronis]

If they put it in “accepted bugs,” does that mean that they consider it an error on the list to be fixed? Or just that they’re investigating it? (I’ve never submitted a bug report…)

Good thing you mentioned it will affect Tartaru, that probably made someone notice it more!

It means they are investigating it. Once they investigate, they'll (probably) move it to one of the other forums.

Would there be any possibility at all of retaining the current graphics in some kind of legacy version of the game program that could be used instead of the updated version? Is it possible at a technical level, and would SE consider implementing it?

Change your computer's time to April 1st and run the benchmark. You'll get to see what one of the old models + some of the old textures look like with the new graphics updates and whatnot. Since my WoL uses many of the same face options, it really stood out to me to show how much the textures have been improved and how faithfully the new models adhere to the old.

So, is it technically possible? It certainly looks like it. Would they consider doing it? Not a chance.