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  1. #1
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Okay I’m going to try to put my thoughts into one post as well thought out as I can





    Here is my 3 comparisons, as you can see the second benchmark is definitely better than the first benchmark (the first one was kinda a nightmare). Now let’s look at the positives first. Firstly the new lighting does wonders for the flat cheeks and the removal of the backlight in the eyes doesn’t feel bad in the second benchmark compared with the first. I also personally didn’t notice the face 4 neck seam on my skin tone but noticed it seriously if I made him any darker or lighter

    Now let’s move to the negatives of which there are few I’d like to discuss
    1) clan markings



    For some reason in the benchmarks the clan marking are super blurry for no good reason and they also appear quite a few shades lighter which I don’t really like. You can also notice in this close up the eye shape has changed giving it a less angular appearance which makes him look softer which I’m also not a fan of

    2 & 3) the lips and the face shape



    In the benchmark my characters lips are pulled up in what makes him appear to have a semi permanent smile. You can also see his cheeks have become less angular. The combination of these things reduces face 4’s “stoic” design and leaves him looking more youthful and more “dopey”. This is a change that I really don’t think needs to happen

    So yeah overall for me benchmark 2 is better than benchmark 1 but I don’t think benchmark 2 is better than my current character
    You do realize you aren't EVER going to get your current character in the update right? How many times does Yoshi P have to say this? So you either accept it. Fantasia. Or, simply move on you. Your sub won't be missed, I promise you.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    You do realize you aren't EVER going to get your current character in the update right? How many times does Yoshi P have to say this? So you either accept it. Fantasia. Or, simply move on you. Your sub won't be missed, I promise you.
    I know my character won’t be 1 to 1

    I’m pointing out changes that don’t need to have been made. Why does my lips have to be turned up like that, that’s not a change that has to be made considering other races got the opposite change where their soft smile was changed to the current stoic look I have.

    I’m fine with a lot of the changes and the updated lighting is good I’m just providing feedback on changes that I don’t think needed to happen. I’m providing feedback, isn’t that the point of the forum so to speak

    I’m not going to quit over this, I’m calmly providing feedback for changes I noticed in the benchmark as yoshi p asked us to do
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    Rhaq'a Burwani
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I know my character won’t be 1 to 1

    I’m pointing out changes that don’t need to have been made. Why does my lips have to be turned up like that, that’s not a change that has to be made considering other races got the opposite change where their soft smile was changed to the current stoic look I have.

    I’m fine with a lot of the changes and the updated lighting is good I’m just providing feedback on changes that I don’t think needed to happen. I’m providing feedback, isn’t that the point of the forum so to speak

    I’m not going to quit over this, I’m calmly providing feedback for changes I noticed in the benchmark as yoshi p asked us to do
    Agreed with everything said. The changes to the lips make my WoL look incredibly creepy. That perpetual smile just doesn't feel right, and for a moment I thought I was looking to a Face 1 character. It changes the vibe of Face 4 completely, and there isn't even a lip option without it either!

    That aside, I could swear my hairstyle has dropped in resolution again. I can't test it because i don't have the previous benchmark but it has a lot of pixelation everywhere:



    EDIT:

    Also, what wrong with the eyes and eyebrows? The eyebrows are thinner and pushed further apart from the eyes now. The overall shape for both is slightly different and not in a good way. And because of the default stance for male miqo'te you rarely if ever get highlights in the eyes in the benchmark.



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    Last edited by ANem; 06-03-2024 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANem View Post
    Agreed with everything said. The changes to the lips make my WoL look incredibly creepy. That perpetual smile just doesn't right, and for a moment I thought I was looking to a Face 1 character. It changes the vibe of Face 4 completely, and there isn't even a lip option without it either!

    That aside, I could swear my hairstyle has dropped in resolution again. I can't test it because i don't have the previous benchmark but it has a lot of pixelation everywhere:



    EDIT:

    Also, what wrong with the eyes and eyebrows? The eyebrows are thinner and pushed further apart from the eyes now. The overall shape for both is slightly different and not in a good way. And because of the default stance for male miqo'te you rarely if ever get highlights in the eyes in the benchmark.



    I really think they need to fix the default male miqote positioning because with the slight “look down” male miqote always have the parts of the eyes you do see on them just looking straight at them still have the same dopey dead the problem the original benchmark had, that or the real reflected light has to be pulled down on the miqote eyes so you still see the real reflected “catchlight” so to speak

    Also love the deryk hair. Deryk is my in game husband
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 06-03-2024 at 11:32 PM.

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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    You do realize you aren't EVER going to get your current character in the update right? How many times does Yoshi P have to say this? So you either accept it. Fantasia. Or, simply move on you. Your sub won't be missed, I promise you.
    Again, this is a feedback thread. Let people give feedback.
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