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    Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

    Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

    I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

    Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

    Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

    I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

    Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.
    Yup, most of the complaints are total nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahlum View Post
    Yup, most of the complaints are total nonsense.
    I was with them when they were showing outlines of lips and stuff being different - and that /is/ a problem or was. I don't know because my character has looked perfect before in 6.58, benchmark 1.0 and 1.1. I'm easy to please.

    But now they're literally complaining about shadows making things look different - which is exactly what shadows do.

    Someone literally said "I don't want to only like my character in certain lighting."

    Like... even in 6.58 I only like my character in certain lighting. Thats not a benchmark thing. Thats a FFXIV thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    I was with them when they were showing outlines of lips and stuff being different - and that /is/ a problem or was. I don't know because my character has looked perfect before in 6.58, benchmark 1.0 and 1.1. I'm easy to please.

    But now they're literally complaining about shadows making things look different - which is exactly what shadows do.

    Someone literally said "I don't want to only like my character in certain lighting."

    Like... even in 6.58 I only like my character in certain lighting. Thats not a benchmark thing. Thats a FFXIV thing.
    People had legitimate concern with the 1.0 benchmark we got. For exemple, a bad vertex point on the Elezeen mouth made it extremely weird. Now, They upgraded the texture even further, changed lightning a bit, shadow calculation, etc etc and people get mad. People will always get mad for the slightest reason. Of course, some reason are completely valid, like a neck seam or eyelashes that aren't placed correctly on the eyes, etc... feature that are not done correctly.

    I'm pretty satisfied with how my character look now. Looks great, and can't wait to start Dawntrail !
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

    Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

    I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

    Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.
    It's definitely not always the case of lighting, and it would be nice if people stopped trying to discredit people's criticisms. Why are you even here if you're just complaining about people's feedback when that's what the thread is for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It's definitely not always the case of lighting, and it would be nice if people stopped trying to discredit people's criticisms. Why are you even here if you're just complaining about people's feedback when that's what the thread is for?
    If someone is allowed to make criticisms, others are allowed to discuss the criticisms. I happen to disagree with literally /everyone/ in this thread. I looked closely and all I see are lighting differences now and higher polygon count.

    The only legit issue I've seen is another thread showing different shape of a Miqote eye selection.

    I even liked the original benchmark.

    The reason I'm saying what I am, is because I don't want peoples incessant complaining to impact what I am already happy with. Literally /nothing/ needs to be changed. At all.

    Let the expansion come out and see things in motion.

    IE : The new lighting and day and night cycle dynamically working over the course of an in game day. I'm willing to bet everyones complaints evaporate when they realize MID DAY LIGHTING is the worst time to take screenshots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    If someone is allowed to make criticisms, others are allowed to discuss the criticisms. I happen to disagree with literally /everyone/ in this thread. I looked closely and all I see are lighting differences now and higher polygon count.

    The only legit issue I've seen is another thread showing different shape of a Miqote eye selection.

    I even liked the original benchmark.

    The reason I'm saying what I am, is because I don't want peoples incessant complaining to impact what I am already happy with. Literally /nothing/ needs to be changed. At all.

    Let the expansion come out and see things in motion.

    IE : The new lighting and day and night cycle dynamically working over the course of an in game day. I'm willing to bet everyones complaints evaporate when they realize MID DAY LIGHTING is the worst time to take screenshots.
    “I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

    That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

    That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum
    Seems I forgot posting on a public forum that I'm happy with things is forbidden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    Seems I forgot posting on a public forum that I'm happy with things is forbidden.
    You can say you are happy

    Saying “I don’t want people’s whining running my enjoyment NOTHING NEEDS TO CHANGE AT ALL” isn’t innocently professing your enjoyment and you know it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

    That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum
    That's not what they said but great job misrepresenting things I guess
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