Updated benchmark

[RhaesDaenys]

It's definitely not always the case of lighting, and it would be nice if people stopped trying to discredit people's criticisms. Why are you even here if you're just complaining about people's feedback when that's what the thread is for?

If someone is allowed to make criticisms, others are allowed to discuss the criticisms. I happen to disagree with literally /everyone/ in this thread. I looked closely and all I see are lighting differences now and higher polygon count.

The only legit issue I've seen is another thread showing different shape of a Miqote eye selection.

I even liked the original benchmark.

The reason I'm saying what I am, is because I don't want peoples incessant complaining to impact what I am already happy with. Literally /nothing/ needs to be changed. At all.

Let the expansion come out and see things in motion.

IE : The new lighting and day and night cycle dynamically working over the course of an in game day. I'm willing to bet everyones complaints evaporate when they realize MID DAY LIGHTING is the worst time to take screenshots.

[Supersnow845]

If someone is allowed to make criticisms, others are allowed to discuss the criticisms. I happen to disagree with literally /everyone/ in this thread. I looked closely and all I see are lighting differences now and higher polygon count.

The only legit issue I've seen is another thread showing different shape of a Miqote eye selection.

I even liked the original benchmark.

The reason I'm saying what I am, is because I don't want peoples incessant complaining to impact what I am already happy with. Literally /nothing/ needs to be changed. At all.

Let the expansion come out and see things in motion.

IE : The new lighting and day and night cycle dynamically working over the course of an in game day. I'm willing to bet everyones complaints evaporate when they realize MID DAY LIGHTING is the worst time to take screenshots.

“I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum

[RhaesDaenys]

“I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum

Seems I forgot posting on a public forum that I'm happy with things is forbidden.

[Cahlum]

“I’m happy so you all need to shut up”

That’s a fantastic opinion that is on a public forum

That's not what they said but great job misrepresenting things I guess

[whitep]

I think people have the right to complain, since the game is really very old and many players have gotten used to their characters.
As artist, I know that sometimes a person wants really small edits in a portrait, so that they say "yes, this is my face".

And it's not about the updated lighting, but about how many details of the characters have really changed in a game where a small shadow under the eyes or a barely noticeable choice of iris size is considered as Fantasia-worthy character edit.

They still have time to fix some things, it's mostly about texture edits and shapes edits.

[Kathryn]

Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.

My character looks completely washed out in the upgrade also her jawline appears completely different, I had both characters face the light as thats the best way to get the most accurate look for your character but bar the hair being more details the upgrade looks like a downgrade to me and it was no where near this bad in the first itiration of the benchmark as I was content with the changes.

[RhaesDaenys]

My character looks completely washed out in the upgrade also her jawline appears completely different, I had both characters face the light as thats the best way to get the most accurate look for your character but bar the hair being more details the upgrade looks like a downgrade to me and it was no where near this bad in the first itiration of the benchmark as I was content with the changes.

Based on your avatar, it looks like you're using Au Ra face 1 like me. I looked at all the jaw types and compared side by side on two monitors... they're the exact same shape, just more rounded instead of boxy. The thing you're noticing is now instead of a weird glow around the edges, shadows are more soft, giving the illusion that the face is more full or thinner than it is.

[Turethir]

I am really appreciative of all the hard work the devs put into the benchmark, and the lighting changes look fantastic! I'm really happy to see that a lot of people are pleased with the changes too, and it's definitely such a big step forward from what we had last time.

From my point of view on my WoL, I don't think they made any changes to Face 2 Au Ra from the last benchmark that I can see. The lighting is definitely better throughout, but otherwise she seems unchanged.

I'm just so upset about the lips. Face 2 Au Ra has such a lovely wide mouth with dimples and this mouth is not the same. I'll do my best to get used to it, and I've already found an eye shape that seems to match my current one better.

[Lexalice]

I don't think they made any changes to Face 2 Au Ra from the last benchmark that I can see. The lighting is definitely better throughout, but otherwise she seems unchanged.

I'm just so upset about the lips. Face 2 Au Ra has such a lovely wide mouth with dimples and this mouth is not the same.

Exact issue I still have. The new benchmark is a vast improvement but face 2 Au Ra F still has a very small mouth compared to what we currently see in game.

https://imgur.com/bxWDB9R

Other than that, the low res face paints clash with the new textures and I found a small pigmentation(?) issue with darker skin tones and the forehead scales.

https://imgur.com/G6sRQGB

Compared to other posts on this thread, lighter skintones look incredible with the new lighting. Lets hope the darker ones will look good in game ...