Updated benchmark

[CidHeiral]

The bottom lip issue was fixed which is great but as I thought would happen the monkey paw curled and something I liked was changed for the worse. The makeup around the eye looked perfect and very badass in the first benchmark, but now the inner part has largely been removed in this new version and turned into a thin little smudge. I can live with it but that really sucks, I loved how it looked before.

Just left feedback on the Japanese forum so might as well post the image here to illustrate what I was talking about.



The inner part of the eye makeup was completely removed. I think the old version not only looked cooler overall, but helped soften that deep lower eyelid.

As I said before, it's a small detail and I can live with it if it doesn't get changed back. I don't think my character is ruined or anything. The new version is actually more accurate to the current game, but I think the first benchmark version was a huge improvement over the original and would have much preferred if they stuck with it. It's a bit frustrating to have a detail made to look worse based on others not being able to handle any amount of change, but I suppose it's all subjective anyway.

[paca]

My glubby nooo

While I love the improvements in general, I feel some faces have changed drastically in feel. I can't speak of many other races, but I really miss the wider lips on face 2 Au Ra as they were part of what defined my character.

[aiqa]

The lighting and eye shader was improved, which is great. But the overall shape of midlander #1 is still a big downgrade in my opinion. Nose looks worse, lips look worse, lots of other small differences that end up with an overall worse face.

[CuteBucket]

So from a quick glance before I need to sleep, they've improved the "dead eye" look and added some gloss to the lips of my characters back, but that's about it. None of the other issues I had were fixed at all.
Male Miqo'te face 4 now has a resting smile and softer eyes, when I purposely chose it for a more harsh, no-nonsense look. The vacant stoned look the first benchmark gave him is still there.
Female au ra face 3 still lost all of her lip shape and her smile, and something is off about the shape of her eyes too.
It's a step in the right direction in regards to the lighting, but everyone who previously said "it's just the lighting!" uh, no, clearly it is not.

[Kathryn]

Hmmm I've been a Xaela Au ra for years (since they were released) but I'm aactually thinking of changing race come 7.0 because she just does not look like my character anymore.. something really feels off.

[RhaesDaenys]

Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.

[Cahlum]

Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.

Yup, most of the complaints are total nonsense.

[RhaesDaenys]

Yup, most of the complaints are total nonsense.

I was with them when they were showing outlines of lips and stuff being different - and that /is/ a problem or was. I don't know because my character has looked perfect before in 6.58, benchmark 1.0 and 1.1. I'm easy to please.

But now they're literally complaining about shadows making things look different - which is exactly what shadows do.

Someone literally said "I don't want to only like my character in certain lighting."

Like... even in 6.58 I only like my character in certain lighting. Thats not a benchmark thing. Thats a FFXIV thing.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

I was with them when they were showing outlines of lips and stuff being different - and that /is/ a problem or was. I don't know because my character has looked perfect before in 6.58, benchmark 1.0 and 1.1. I'm easy to please.

But now they're literally complaining about shadows making things look different - which is exactly what shadows do.

Someone literally said "I don't want to only like my character in certain lighting."

Like... even in 6.58 I only like my character in certain lighting. Thats not a benchmark thing. Thats a FFXIV thing.

People had legitimate concern with the 1.0 benchmark we got. For exemple, a bad vertex point on the Elezeen mouth made it extremely weird. Now, They upgraded the texture even further, changed lightning a bit, shadow calculation, etc etc and people get mad. People will always get mad for the slightest reason. Of course, some reason are completely valid, like a neck seam or eyelashes that aren't placed correctly on the eyes, etc... feature that are not done correctly.

I'm pretty satisfied with how my character look now. Looks great, and can't wait to start Dawntrail !

[Doozer]

Most of you all saying 'something feels off' are saying that because thats the biggest difference the lighting makes. The current games lighting is /very/ bad. Now we have proper lighting. Shadows are more accurate and look a lot better. Shadows make things look different.

Its the age old shine a flashlight under your chin to look scary thing.

I also don't get the 'duck lips' complaint on the Au Ra pictures from that one person. Duck lips stick out. Au Ra lips are practically flat against their face in all four options on Face 1.

Some of yall will literally never be happy unless they give up on the graphics update and leave us with old models forever.

It's definitely not always the case of lighting, and it would be nice if people stopped trying to discredit people's criticisms. Why are you even here if you're just complaining about people's feedback when that's what the thread is for?