Updated benchmark

[potatsdevourer]

My character is looking better under new lighting condition. Altho if I need to admit, he is looking years older than 6.58 version. Which means my complain from first benchmark for Male Highlander Face#2 still stands.

(no any facepaint/hair/lipstik to make comparison easier)

1) Dividing line on eyebrow ridge is too prominent on the benchmark version and not blended enough
Seems to be conscious choice to compensate the lack of eyebrows for more readable face mimic, which is strange hill to keep fighting on. I would rather have more blended eyebrow ridge. OR please make it an option to have more/less prominent eyebrow ridge, for people who likes to keep their eyebrowlessness.


2) Nose is boxier in benchmark version and look shorter becacuse of more prominent nasal alae
Personally I would really like they keep the curved shaped of the nose bridge from 6.58. And make ala part of nostril (the side of nose) to be less prominent, since it gives perception that the nose is shorter.


3) Cheek on benchmark is just straight up different from 6.58 version
Cheek region is not as continuous/smooth like the 6.58 version (is it what they call laughing line?). If other races have their laughing line smoothen by new benchmark, then I don't see reason that Highlander should be singled out on this. Personally I would like to see this fixed.


4) This one is more personal, but I miss the notch on the upper lip from 6.58 version. I would like to see this come back in benchmark instead just having flatter upper lip!


Apart from that, eyes seems to be bigger. AND facepaint eyebrow is still raised tad bit more, or it might be the case of different face morph. And in all fairness, I think each component of these changes are charming on its own, but combined together and all of sudden the character looks way older.

[Astronis]

My character is looking better under new lighting condition. Altho if I need to admit, he is looking years older than 6.58 version. Which means my complain from first benchmark for Male Highlander Face#2 still stands.

I use the same face and it looks like the same nose. Here is my feedback to Square Enix regarding this specific face: Thank you for fixing the issue in the last benchmark where it looked like my brow ridge was too soft and not angled correctly. Otherwise: please for the love of Rhalgr, do not listen to this player regarding the nose. DO NOT CHANGE THE NOSE. The nose is PERFECT AS IT NOW STANDS. Touch not the nose! It is different and that is a good thing. Please leave the cheeks alone. They are fantastic as they now stand. Please please please please please just stop fiddling with it, I love it as is and even prefer it.

[Doozer]

Yes. But sometimes, the differences are so small, that i hope, that the people, who complain, will never buy a new monitor or a new GPU. Because the game will become unplayable for them because with the new monitor the character will look completely different.



Cheers

I seriously doubt a new monitor can completely change textures, normal maps, and lighting.



Cheers

[Irishfae]

Yes. But sometimes, the differences are so small, that i hope, that the people, who complain, will never buy a new monitor or a new GPU. Because the game will become unplayable for them because with the new monitor the character will look completely different.

Cheers

Completely untrue. I upgraded EVERYTHING (so I could run CP with all the fancy settings) and am running FF at 4K max settings, and my character doesn't look different. The lines haven't changed with the monitor/gpu changes. The DT differences are because lines have completely been redone.

[Doozer]

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

And the 0.01% matters to people. Again, this is a feedback thread. People are giving their feedback, even if you think it's pointless.

[purincchi]

And the 0.01% matters to people. Again, this is a feedback thread. People are giving their feedback, even if you think it's pointless.

for real lol I'm genuinely so confused as to why so many people are waltzing into these feedback threads and going "well I think my character looks perfect/the changes don't matter/I hit randomize features when I made my character and only look at them on the login screen so why are YOU complaining". the devs are literally asking for feedback and people are providing it; this isn't about you.

[Doozer]

for real lol I'm genuinely so confused as to why so many people are waltzing into these feedback threads and going "well I think my character looks perfect/the changes don't matter/I hit randomize features when I made my character and only look at them on the login screen so why are YOU complaining". the devs are literally asking for feedback and people are providing it; this isn't about you.

It's never even in an attempt to reassure people, either. Just "wow you people are never satisfied huh" or "there's literally no difference between the two versions" like it's going to do anything constructive. What's the point.

[Gyson]

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

That's not a particularly fair take. Usually it's a combination of small issues that, combined, creates an outcome that is frustrating the people who have created these characters.

Let's dive into something that is related - many people do not like the way they look in photographs. That is because people are used to seeing themselves in the mirror and when they see themselves as others see them they can often be a bit bothered or repulsed by what they're seeing as their look is somewhat familiar yet somehow "off". They see themselves in a photo and their brain is telling them something is wrong; it doesn't match what they see every day when they're greeted by their reflections in the mirror. Meanwhile, everyone else looking at the photo just sees you the way they've always seen you and isn't noticing the flaws that you do.

The point here being that people have grown attached to the way their characters look, and small deviations may not be noticeable to everyone else but you can be certain they are easy to spot and disturbing to the people who own those characters and see them on a daily basis.

[Leon-Valeren]

definitely not a fan of the changed miqo faces, they all now smile by default which takes away the neutral or even grumpy expression. also male miqo have rather dead eyes, especially seeker have it bad with their eye slit not being visible anymore

male miqo comparison
https://imgur.com/gallery/benchmark-...face-4-9WVqYkt

fem miqo comparison
https://imgur.com/gallery/endwalker-benchmark-BZihhdB



my au'ra character got heavy eyebags now. i can see the charm of them but personally it makes me think she looks tired all the time and i wish it was a toggle or another option rather than the default for the droopy eyes

benchmark:
https://imgur.com/gallery/aura-eyebags-cyi54nf

endwalker:
https://imgur.com/gallery/aura-current-73Cr5zK



i personally do like how they treated elezen but i still noticed that with the current graphics they do look younger than before? and less mature

comparison endwalker vs benchmark
https://imgur.com/gallery/moisturuzed-XnMcoD6



overall the miqo'te got it worst. everything else i might get used to but i can't imagine playing my WOL with that current look anymore

[Fortecael]

I'm only here to say I love all the changes, Elezen especially are AMAZING, Midlanders are also very good. Au Ra, Miqotes and Viera finally started to look lore accurate.

To all the people complaining, y'all should stop treating this game as second life.