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    Player
    BrunoKazuki's Avatar
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    Bruno Kazuki
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90

    Male Hrothgars Lines Issue

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    Fayt1203's Avatar
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    A'shtola Rhul
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Benchmark 1.0


    Benchmark 1.1



    to be honest there not much of a difference that i can see other then the lip color finally being the same as in game

    But i have seen a lot of improvement on my alt Hyur (dont have a pic at the moment)
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    Last edited by Fayt1203; 06-04-2024 at 08:14 AM.
    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

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    Alexia Kusanagi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    I think at this point they need to just do some final tweaks, release dawntrail as is and go we ain’t spending anymore resources on characters cause it’s a battle of people in some cases (not all) being very nitpicky… I will say in the second round of updates they eventually do just make hair more like actual hair because in theory dropping ps4 and lower spec pc should allow for another bump. So for now and for the future I hope more time is spent on environments
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    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    New benchmark is an improvement. They restored my pointy chin on my character. Seeker mouth 3 on females is still bigger than in 6.58 so that's a little annoying, and the eye shape is still more rounded; but my complaints are lessened than with the original benchmark.
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    FuturePastNow's Avatar
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    Kali Zeruel
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The updated benchmark is obviously a big improvement over the original DT bench, especially in the lighting of the creator itself, but I am not a fan of the rebuild of the Roegadyn face. They've smoothed out all angles and flat shapes of the face, which might look more natural if she were human, but she isn't, and it does not look better.
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Pretty much every benchmark character I saw posted on Twitter today looked better than the original IMO. A lot of very happy people over there.

    I liked mine as well, no complaints here.
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    Acheno Oronir
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 64
    My character across all the different graphics versions we've seen. While the lighting changes are impressive, I dislike the more pronounced creases at his brow and the corners of his mouth seem thinner than the benchmark V1/live versions.



    Again, the lighting in the new benchmark is a huge improvement. I'm excited to see what the team will be able to do with the update to the graphics engine and I hope all the heated feedback doesn't discourage them from doing more graphics updates in the future.

    I noticed the eyes looked a bit milky from certain angles in the new benchmark. I tried to get both a good comparison shot and an angle where the look was most obvious:




    The irises stand out less in the new version and just look milky in the last picture. I saw some players pointing this out with Miqo'te in other threads, is this something a lot of players are seeing?
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    Last edited by Risough; 06-15-2024 at 04:34 PM.

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    Acheno Oronir
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Risough View Post
    My character across all the different graphics versions we've seen. While the lighting changes are impressive, I dislike the more pronounced creases at his brow and the corners of his mouth seem thinner than the benchmark V1/live versions.



    I've had a chance to sleep on it and I'd like to speak a bit more about those wrinkles on his brow. The furrows are too exaggerated compared to what we see in 6.58. This is for Face 4 highlander.










    I've outlined the area I'm unhappy with above. You can see the wrinkle around the brow is much deeper and darker now. The shading and contrast give the impression that he's always angrier than before. It's especially noticeable when viewed top-down as in the images from my previous post.

    Highlander players in general feel pretty ignored. It feels a bit like after 10 years of asking for brows SE has given us a "best we can do is deeper wrinkles." I don't expect to see eyebrows as part of the update but I hope there is still some time to make adjustments to match the look we had.

    Comparing the current brow to the first benchmark, perhaps the crease was exaggerated to fix the lighting in the old build? If so I hope the shading can be adjusted to be less severe in 7.0.
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    Last edited by Risough; 06-15-2024 at 04:50 PM.

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    Astronis Smythe
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risough View Post
    I've outlined the area I'm unhappy with above. You can see the wrinkle around the brow is much deeper and darker now. The shading and contrast give the impression that he's always angrier than before.
    He actually looks ever so slightly more relaxed and happier than before, due to a subtle shadow on the corners of his mouth that hint at a smile. The slightly deeper furrows doesn't make his expression look angrier at all.

    As far as not paying much attention to Highlanders, they fixed an issue on my Highlander's brow ridge that I didn't even realize was there, until I did a side by side by side of live, 1.0 bench, and A Benchmark Reborn.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risough View Post
    I've had a chance to sleep on it and that crease at his brow is a bigger problem for me than I was willing to admit. The crease is too exaggerated compared to what we see in 6.58. This is for Face 4 highlander.

    I've noticed a similar issue on my female Roegadyn (face 1).

    This screenshot is from the first benchmark but it didn't seem to have been fixed in the new one.



    Specifically in this case it is the creases over the eye, which extend further inwards now. The blue arrows mark the end of the visible line.

    She also has shadows under her eyes that weren't there before.
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