Updated benchmark

[Supersnow845]

You do realize you aren't EVER going to get your current character in the update right? How many times does Yoshi P have to say this? So you either accept it. Fantasia. Or, simply move on you. Your sub won't be missed, I promise you.

I know my character won’t be 1 to 1

I’m pointing out changes that don’t need to have been made. Why does my lips have to be turned up like that, that’s not a change that has to be made considering other races got the opposite change where their soft smile was changed to the current stoic look I have.

I’m fine with a lot of the changes and the updated lighting is good I’m just providing feedback on changes that I don’t think needed to happen. I’m providing feedback, isn’t that the point of the forum so to speak

I’m not going to quit over this, I’m calmly providing feedback for changes I noticed in the benchmark as yoshi p asked us to do

[ANem]

I know my character won’t be 1 to 1

I’m pointing out changes that don’t need to have been made. Why does my lips have to be turned up like that, that’s not a change that has to be made considering other races got the opposite change where their soft smile was changed to the current stoic look I have.

I’m fine with a lot of the changes and the updated lighting is good I’m just providing feedback on changes that I don’t think needed to happen. I’m providing feedback, isn’t that the point of the forum so to speak

I’m not going to quit over this, I’m calmly providing feedback for changes I noticed in the benchmark as yoshi p asked us to do

Agreed with everything said. The changes to the lips make my WoL look incredibly creepy. That perpetual smile just doesn't feel right, and for a moment I thought I was looking to a Face 1 character. It changes the vibe of Face 4 completely, and there isn't even a lip option without it either!

That aside, I could swear my hairstyle has dropped in resolution again. I can't test it because i don't have the previous benchmark but it has a lot of pixelation everywhere:



EDIT:

Also, what wrong with the eyes and eyebrows? The eyebrows are thinner and pushed further apart from the eyes now. The overall shape for both is slightly different and not in a good way. And because of the default stance for male miqo'te you rarely if ever get highlights in the eyes in the benchmark.

[Supersnow845]

Agreed with everything said. The changes to the lips make my WoL look incredibly creepy. That perpetual smile just doesn't right, and for a moment I thought I was looking to a Face 1 character. It changes the vibe of Face 4 completely, and there isn't even a lip option without it either!

That aside, I could swear my hairstyle has dropped in resolution again. I can't test it because i don't have the previous benchmark but it has a lot of pixelation everywhere:



EDIT:

Also, what wrong with the eyes and eyebrows? The eyebrows are thinner and pushed further apart from the eyes now. The overall shape for both is slightly different and not in a good way. And because of the default stance for male miqo'te you rarely if ever get highlights in the eyes in the benchmark.

I really think they need to fix the default male miqote positioning because with the slight “look down” male miqote always have the parts of the eyes you do see on them just looking straight at them still have the same dopey dead the problem the original benchmark had, that or the real reflected light has to be pulled down on the miqote eyes so you still see the real reflected “catchlight” so to speak

Also love the deryk hair. Deryk is my in game husband

[Doozer]

You do realize you aren't EVER going to get your current character in the update right? How many times does Yoshi P have to say this? So you either accept it. Fantasia. Or, simply move on you. Your sub won't be missed, I promise you.

Again, this is a feedback thread. Let people give feedback.

[Turnintino]

For some reason in the benchmarks the clan marking are super blurry for no good reason and they also appear quite a few shades lighter which I don’t really like. You can also notice in this close up the eye shape has changed giving it a less angular appearance which makes him look softer which I’m also not a fan of

2 & 3) the lips and the face shape

I agree with the other points you made, but the reason the face markings look blurrier to you in comparison to your character's current face is because you're comparing it to a high-resolution upscale/repaint. I assume you forgot to turn that mod off before you took your screenshots.

In screenshots I took for the Japanese feedback thread, you can see the vanilla texture is actually noticeably lower resolution than what we see in the new benchmark. Although I agree that it could still stand to be upscaled further (especially in comparison to the female face markings, which look great, imo).



(My feedback, if it isn't obvious, was about the change in shape to nose option 1 and the loss of fullness in mouth option 2.)

[Fourbestintoner]

I've also noticed au ra scales change color depending on skin color. What's up with that?

[ilustralun]

The lighting is a clear improvement to the first benchmark - someone not familiar with my character wouldn't notice anything different at all, especially from a distance.

This benchmark does show however that the current eye shape has been slightly changed so that the thickness of the upper eyelid is now thinner while the outer edges became noticeably thicker like a raccoon eyeliner makeup style. I'm not sure why it seems that the geometry was inverted as such, but the devs clearly put a lot of work into the changes and my character looks better overall: her lips were changed to reflect their current look and her teeth are not cursed anymore. I'll take it!

(Still, it would be nice to have the upper eyelid/outer edge thicknesses reflect their current look too though!)

[DynnDiablos]

I think what is obvious here, is many of you simply don't like the new aesthetic and want ZERO changes and that is not what is happening here. Also, I think this proves, many of you will never be satisfied. Period. The game launches in 25 days for Early Access. They aren't delaying it to appease your nitpicking. No face or character is going to be 1:1. And what I am honestly seeing here is a death by a thousand cuts where in the end NO ONE is going to be happy because folks who loved previous changes are now upset. Folks who demanded changes are still not happy. You can tweak something over and over again until the end result NO ONE is happy. At all.

These poor folks have 25 days and probably less to get DT ready to launch. They don't deserve the hate and vitriol being thrown their way over this.

[CecMiller]

Will post this on the JPN side later.

My own concerns:

Thank you for the Benchmark changes.

Unfortunately, it seems that there are still existing issues in the design of Au Ra. It seems Au Ra changes were largely ignored.

1. The pupils are too big/dilated. They were small originally. This changes the look of the character. Please change this back or add an option for the pupils to be big or small.

2. The colours of the umbral ring are more darked and cannot be easily replaced. My character was directly imported, and the colour is significantly darker. This colour can no longer be replicated as there are not many colours for blue. This blue was important as it represented the colour we’ve seen come up in the story multiple times with significant story relevance.

3. The lips are no longer upturned at the corners. This makes the characters expression change from slightly happy to neutral or expressionless.

There are more issues, but I feel these are most pressing for my own Au Ra.

Before and after Slider: https://imgsli.com/MjY5Mzcx



For #2:

[VerdeLuck]

They didn't change anything that people were complaining about with the Male Viera redesign. "Listening to feedback" lol!
They just tweaked the lighting and gave the devs favorite races a tune up and called it a day.