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    Treicantha Quasethir
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    Contacts, Coils and Redubbing: Three Personal Wishes & Discussion On

    In my time playing, and in the news leading up to Dawntrail, there's 3 big "wants" I have begun to have.

    First, let's begin with the "Contacts" portion as this can be purely narrowed down to something SE could take advantage of - if they want. With the addition of Glasses being added as a glamour-only spot, my first and only thought has been on Elpis's eyes. While I will not elaborate to avoid spoilers, but the eyes there are truly unique, and one in specific was remarkably similar to one I wished to put on my own character when I first started out, but blue instead of a more potent purple. Making contact lenses would be great for all players for any unique eyes anyone would want, as long as they're dyeable or affected by eye color, or preferably both. I am without a doubt hoping these would be obtainable in-game however, in this hypothetical where we do in fact get these. Cash shop only should be a last resort, even if it means locking them or the crafting materials to make them behind maps. Merely a wish to see them on my character for many a glamour.

    Secondly, Coils, or rather Coils of Bahamut. This is one I expect to happen eventually after recent mentions from Yoshida himself during the Fanfests, but Coils as a piece of content is extremely limited. The vast majority of players I have encountered have never done Coils, had a friend unsync it with them to experience the amazing story, or if they have done it themselves, it was via unsyncing much later by the time they had hit endgame. The latter being, sadly, the case I fell in. The wish then: Make Coils a raid series capable of being queued for in Normal Raid Roulette while still maintaining several key elements. I have no idea how the old fights or Savage would be handled, but still. It's a wish nonetheless.

    Lastly, the most ambitious, least likely and pipe-dream of the three... a complete English reubbing of the entirety of A Realm Reborn. Not just the base experience, though it'd probably start like this, but the entirety of the patches and even aforementioned Coils thanks to its voicework too. Some of this, like with Louisoix, would be able to be reused, but others however, such as the Scions, Cid, Gaius... even random NPC's if given the chance, all of it would go yalms and malms towards easing the new player experience. While I will not be harsh here as I don't know the circumstances and know ARR was put together with love and care, and even know some of these voice actors put their hearts and souls into the performances, some of the performances cannot be described as anything more than "ear-grating" or "nothing." Because of all of this, I just wish, even if many years down the line in a hypothetical 14.0, this happens one day.

    This is an open thread and I'm very curious to see how this evolves. I thank anyone for reading this initial post through to the end, and I humbly request the replies to this be civil and attempt to be positive. Have a wonderful day!
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    Eyes: I'm down but you'd have to show Square that it's worth having since they have eye color changes locked behind Fantasia. This would be a way to avoid giving them money to make changes.

    Coils: Coils was made during a time when hard content was all the rage. It's not at all on the same level as HW+ normal raids so it can't really be thrown into the same roulette series without them remaking and dumbing down all of the Coils floors. I'm personally against that as I enjoy the challenge they provide, especially in the latter stages where mechanics matter. I've personally been able to sync them in EW with other people, you'll just have to set it up yourself or get a static going.

    Voices: Again, down. Just how would it benefit them in a way to make the task (money+ time) worth it? I don't believe VA revamp alone would draw in a crowd but maybe I could be wrong.
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    Player DrForester's Avatar
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    It's really astounding that coils has not gotten a rework. It's incredibly good content that is absolutely impractical for any new player to do during their ARR journey. Getting a high level friend to carry you is not something new players should have to do.
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treicantha View Post
    First, let's begin with the "Contacts" portion as this can be purely narrowed down to something SE could take advantage of - if they want. With the addition of Glasses being added as a glamour-only spot, my first and only thought has been on Elpis's eyes. While I will not elaborate to avoid spoilers, but the eyes there are truly unique, and one in specific was remarkably similar to one I wished to put on my own character when I first started out, but blue instead of a more potent purple. Making contact lenses would be great for all players for any unique eyes anyone would want, as long as they're dyeable or affected by eye color, or preferably both. I am without a doubt hoping these would be obtainable in-game however, in this hypothetical where we do in fact get these. Cash shop only should be a last resort, even if it means locking them or the crafting materials to make them behind maps. Merely a wish to see them on my character for many a glamour.
    The eyes that those characters have in Elpis is part of what makes them special and unique and shows how different they are from us despite otherwise looking exactly like us. If every player could do it, then it wouldn't exactly be special or unique for those characters or even amongst the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Coils: Coils was made during a time when hard content was all the rage. It's not at all on the same level as HW+ normal raids so it can't really be thrown into the same roulette series without them remaking and dumbing down all of the Coils floors. I'm personally against that as I enjoy the challenge they provide, especially in the latter stages where mechanics matter. I've personally been able to sync them in EW
    They could do a "dumb down" version of coils while keeping the current coils as a 'hard mode' and have it be completely untouched (while keeping 2nd coil savage in its wierd limbo) lower the damage and health and tweak maybe two of the bosses and it should be good to go, though if they do that please keep the early coils dungeonness it would be quite sad if coils got redesigned into yet another trial set
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    It's really astounding that coils has not gotten a rework. It's incredibly good content that is absolutely impractical for any new player to do during their ARR journey. Getting a high level friend to carry you is not something new players should have to do.
    If it received a rework it would cease being incredibly good content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    They could do a "dumb down" version of coils while keeping the current coils as a 'hard mode' and have it be completely untouched (while keeping 2nd coil savage in its wierd limbo) lower the damage and health and tweak maybe two of the bosses and it should be good to go, though if they do that please keep the early coils dungeonness it would be quite sad if coils got redesigned into yet another trial set
    It's already been dumbed down. The hardest mechanics outside of the final fights in each tier were nerfed hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    They could do a "dumb down" version of coils while keeping the current coils as a 'hard mode' and have it be completely untouched (while keeping 2nd coil savage in its wierd limbo) lower the damage and health and tweak maybe two of the bosses and it should be good to go, though if they do that please keep the early coils dungeonness it would be quite sad if coils got redesigned into yet another trial set
    Or just don't bother with close to 11 year old content?

    If you're so fascinated with it, there's unsync'd and PF. If you are unwilling to engage with content that is a decade old without duty finder and the content has been nerfed into a complete joke due to all of the expansions that came afterward, that is your problem.

    It was the only equivalent to current savage then, so it is not a normal story raid and why we have normal raid in the first place. LCD's not wanting to engage with the content and then whining about it being inaccessible. To be fair at that current time, the servers were horrendous and remained so for quite a while so some might have not even been able to do the content even if they wanted to.
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 06-03-2024 at 03:38 AM.

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    Uh, I am definitely down for coils being reworked.

    It's a shame that the only go-to is essentially undersized content, which IMO waters down the story experience given what it was built up to be. This remains true for all capstone fights too, tbh. -- I think it would also serve to benefit upskilling players a little more too. Offer a coils story/normal version, and then produce a savage version, which could just effectively be the current state. In many respects they may not need to actually look at reworking the fights entirely, but some small tweaks so that certain mechanics aren't just effectively a death sentence. Can also serve to add level 50 content into the normal raid roulette.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-03-2024 at 04:45 AM.

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    It is a colossal waste of time and money to rework content that is dead, where only 100 people would care about it at most.
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