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    Player Azureskies01's Avatar
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    With Activision and Bungies recent wins against cheat providers it is time SE's

    legal team get in on the money tree and get their millions that they deserve.

    If you are interested the cases are Bungie vs AimJunkies and Activision vs EngineOwning. This is Activision's second win and bungies case went to a Jury which makes it a landmark decision that will make it much easier to sue (and win) cheat providers in the future.

    Some cheats have well over 4 million downloads and if SE wanted to sue for the amount of money that Activision did they would get over 800 million dollars in their suit - Activision sued for 200 dollars per download. Of course they would never see most of that money but the stage has been set to finally, legally, put down these cheat providers and protect their IP in the USA.
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    If they wanted too, they would have started long ago or made a example of billboard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    If they wanted too, they would have started long ago or made a example of billboard
    Tell me you know nothing about how the legal system works without telling me you know nothing about how the legal system works.

    These two cases were just won by these companies. It now makes it MUCH easier to win for other companies to go after cheat software providers/distributors. In the Bungie case it deals more with IP tampering so this could also effect games that don't allow mods in their ToS such as Street Fighter 6 or of course XIV. Anything that changes the IP of the game is now illegal and thanks to the jury the precedent is set. All SE would have to do is prove that it is happening, send a S&D, then sue the living **** out of the people behind the mod programs for infringing on their IP. Sure it might be a slight oversimplification of course but one that most of the big gaming publishers have done at some point or another. Plus there is nintendo out there suing everyone for even mentioning mario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies01 View Post
    Tell me you know nothing about how the legal system works without telling me you know nothing about how the legal system works.

    These two cases were just won by these companies. It now makes it MUCH easier to win for other companies to go after cheat software providers/distributors. In the Bungie case it deals more with IP tampering so this could also effect games that don't allow mods in their ToS such as Street Fighter 6 or of course XIV. Anything that changes the IP of the game is now illegal and thanks to the jury the precedent is set. All SE would have to do is prove that it is happening, send a S&D, then sue the living **** out of the people behind the mod programs for infringing on their IP. Sure it might be a slight oversimplification of course but one that most of the big gaming publishers have done at some point or another. Plus there is nintendo out there suing everyone for even mentioning mario.
    Would this, in term, make it also possible to ban the modders of ffxiv too? The ones using them ingame (even though theyre not tied to the IP)? Im generally curious
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    They do regularly hunt down cheaters, botters and RMT people and post weekly notices on how many they caught. Though most of it is probably just RMT advertising bots.
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    ... and we do know that all cheat providers for XIV all live in countries where they can be sued, I assume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    ... and we do know that all cheat providers for XIV all live in countries where they can be sued, I assume?
    So they all live in china and russia or iran? If that is the case you have to ask yourself why you would allow your PC to have software from those countries. So yes most of the world respects US IP law.
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    Big waste of time and PR; people will just ridicule their avengers/forespoken games.
    Better decision is to focus on creating more content which people really care to cheat for like Eureka, Bozja, etc.

    You know, stuff that interests most of the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies01 View Post
    So they all live in china and russia or iran? If that is the case you have to ask yourself why you would allow your PC to have software from those countries. So yes most of the world respects US IP law.
    What's wrong with the people of those countries? Some of the best people I've met in the world are from those 3 countries specifically.
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    Last edited by Rekh; 05-31-2024 at 10:33 PM.

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    Player Azureskies01's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekh View Post
    Big waste of time and PR; people will just ridicule their avengers/forespoken games.
    Better decision is to focus on creating more content which people don't really care to cheat for like Eureka, Bozja, etc.

    You know, stuff that interests most of the community.


    What's wrong with the people of those countries?
    Did I say anything about the people of those countries? Come on man, try harder to get some good troll bait because you know I was talking about their IP protection laws. Or maybe you don't and you just can't read very well. I suppose that is an option as well.
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    Are XIV cheats sold for money? People are paying to zoom out real big? I've only heard of some brazen modders putting a price tag on a model they ripped from somewhere else.

    I assume they'd need to be for-profit cheats to be sueable. If they aren't selling anything then it'd be hard to prove damages.
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