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  1. #11
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Or how about a crafting bag of sorts, where you can put all the materials in, including the baits.
    That would solve a hell of alot of issues tbh, I always keep a full stack of old materials due to some new recipes requiring older materials, thats what my retainers are used for so I cant really keep many armours and such as my glamour cupboard is full with old armours I love the appearance of.
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  2. #12
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it now, as long as pay per month retainers exist, I refuse to give any credence to "stop hoarding" arguments.
    Letting people pay extra to indulge their hoarding problem doesn't mean they don't still have a hoarding problem.
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  3. #13
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Depending on how efficient they want to be, a bait bag could run anywhere from a single bit to two bytes per bait. Most likely one bit, 10 bits, or lazy mode two bytes. There's no need to carry item data beyond existence(extended to quantity in the second two options) because it can be an established list. "First value is lugworm. Second value is pillbug." etc. Options 2 and 3 would be for running a stack of up to 999 of the bait, while option 1 would require a method to buy/trade/whatever to unlock a permanent version of the bait.
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  4. #14
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Depending on how efficient they want to be, a bait bag could run anywhere from a single bit to two bytes per bait. Most likely one bit, 10 bits, or lazy mode two bytes. There's no need to carry item data beyond existence(extended to quantity in the second two options) because it can be an established list. "First value is lugworm. Second value is pillbug." etc. Options 2 and 3 would be for running a stack of up to 999 of the bait, while option 1 would require a method to buy/trade/whatever to unlock a permanent version of the bait.
    Go with the one bit option for un/locked ; then let us use GP or "fisher's delineation" or plot points on Azem's crystal to summon a worm
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  5. #15
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it now, as long as pay per month retainers exist, I refuse to give any credence to "stop hoarding" arguments.
    Mao also would likes know about why peoples so adamants against QoL feature likes more storage space. In GW2 is bank tab specifically for storage of crafting mats. Is has slot for every single mat in game and with each new expansion adds new slots to cover new mats created. Each slot also expandables in terms of capacity (starts at 250 per slot if Mao remembers right). GW2 also nots store gears or dyes as physical items buts as entries in database attached to character. Once character encounters gear or dye, item gets stored and can be called ups for use agains whenever player wants. Now Mao knows FFXIV is nots GW2. What Mao sayings though is that GW2 is expansions-proof and FFXIV is not. Why peoples gets so angrys about peoples wanting more storage space? Is peoples whats want hoard things for to be ables craft anythings or have much glams or fish for anythings or collect furnitures and other such misc. items, so much troubles for folks whats get crankys abouts them? If Anet can find way to makes GW2 expansion-proof, surely SE can do little bits more in this direction too.
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    Last edited by Eraden; 05-29-2024 at 08:20 PM.

  6. #16
    Player Azureskies01's Avatar
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    Azure Skies
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    Maduin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Ok lets have a think.

    140 regular invintory slots

    70 saddle bag

    175 per retainer, 2 retainers

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    50 weapon slots

    50 ring slots

    35 slots for everything else (315 total for other gear slots)

    415 total gear slots from the armory chest


    That is the total amount of inventory someone could have without buying more retainers, we can exclude the armory though as it doesn't factor into where bait can be held.

    The main issue I see from this is not the fact that you have 560 total slots to put things in, it is the fact that while fishing, questing, or doing most things in the game you can't have access to your retainers which is a large portion of the potential slots you have to fill. At the end of the day you only have your bags and maybe the saddle bag as your "real" inventory and the rest should be considered storage. Even then though I would argue that someone could still say the saddle bag should be lumped in with retainers as you can't hand in quest items from your SB, you can craft items with mats from your SB or do a number of other things. Sure the SB goes with you where you go (other than instanced content) but it still has many restrictions on it.

    Now here is where it gets kinda messy, with all of the different currencies in the game someone could be put off by the fact that there is just such a stupidly low amount of inventory space to begin with. You have Eureka and Bozja with their own items and currencies within their zone but you also have things like Bozjan coins which can be put in your retainer or SB but you would have ZERO access to them while actually in Bozja/Zad. This is bad design and needs to be changed. Of that I think everyone can agree. The fact of the matter with that is you could potentially use up 5 inventory slots of just the different types of coins. Then you have things like relic items, sure you can always put them in your SB when you are done farming but you can't complete quests while they are in your SB. Depending on which expansion you are farming for items in the amount could be a few (EW) to a **** ton (ShB).


    I could go on but I'm sure I'm close to the character limit by now but I'll just say I don't think it is a matter or having too few or too many slots more that it is the fact that the retainer and SB don't act just like regular inventory slots. If anything I would like for them to link retainer and SB into your regular bags so that there are just multiple tabs you can switch through, much like how the Key Items & Crystals tab works now.
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    Last edited by Azureskies01; 05-29-2024 at 09:25 PM.

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    Sjol's Avatar
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    Sjol Fantl
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I do hate inventory management in FFXIV. It's some of the worst I've come across and I hate that it feels like it's this way so they can charge me extra money for retainers. Every decision seems to be towards frustration.

    Can't craft from retainers
    Can't use bait from saddlebags
    Can't do turn-ins from saddlebags
    Can't organize retainers by what you want them to store
    Can't collect glamours, only gear
    Can't bulk dump gear into retainers (better, but still one-by-one)
    Can't view all your retainer inventory at once
    Can't filter your retainer inventory
    Can't sell more than 20 items per retainer
    Can't have toys without using inventory space

    And for all the complaints of hording. A lot of that could be solved by uncapping the market selling or at least dramatically expanding it.
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  8. #18
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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by retrog View Post
    I would love if Square added a tacklebox to the game. I am tired of having my inventory clogged with bait. Do you think we could ever get something like this to hold our bait?
    Why don't you just dump all the bait and only carry the ones you need when you need them?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Letting people pay extra to indulge their hoarding problem doesn't mean they don't still have a hoarding problem.
    100%
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    Last edited by CidHeiral; 05-30-2024 at 06:15 AM.

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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao also would likes know about why peoples so adamants against QoL feature likes more storage space. In GW2 is bank tab specifically for storage of crafting mats. Is has slot for every single mat in game and with each new expansion adds new slots to cover new mats created. Each slot also expandables in terms of capacity (starts at 250 per slot if Mao remembers right). GW2 also nots store gears or dyes as physical items buts as entries in database attached to character. Once character encounters gear or dye, item gets stored and can be called ups for use agains whenever player wants. Now Mao knows FFXIV is nots GW2. What Mao sayings though is that GW2 is expansions-proof and FFXIV is not. Why peoples gets so angrys about peoples wanting more storage space? Is peoples whats want hoard things for to be ables craft anythings or have much glams or fish for anythings or collect furnitures and other such misc. items, so much troubles for folks whats get crankys abouts them? If Anet can find way to makes GW2 expansion-proof, surely SE can do little bits more in this direction too.
    I could have not said it any better. Thank you Mao.
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  10. #20
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Why don't you just dump all the bait and only carry the ones you need when you need them?
    Maybe they should make regular fishing like ocean fishing where there's only 3 baits that all work for every location for focusing small/medium/large fish.
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