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  1. #111
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Been using Seraphism and honestly ugliness aside. It's just really absurdly strong and I don't know why it's a SCH ability, this really really really seems like it should be a WHM ability.
    Having all these strong instant cast heals for 30 seconds and with the emergency tactics cd it makes it insanely powerful pure healing.
    I do actually like the ability in concept but not for SCH, this really seems like it should be something for WHM or AST.
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    Last edited by Ramiee; 07-06-2024 at 10:31 AM.

  2. #112
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Still hate how it looks but when I press it its basically impossible for anyone to die unless it's from an attack doing over 100% of their health. And then my MP is gone, oops!
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  3. #113
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    Still hate how it looks but when I press it its basically impossible for anyone to die unless it's from an attack doing over 100% of their health. And then my MP is gone, oops!
    Part of the reason why I think it suits WHM. Not because how it looks, it just looks bad, but because its constant healing is what I associate with what WHM should be. Also helps that WHM has pretty strong mana economy so the MP cost while still costing a bit would be reasonable compared to SCH whose MP economy isn't as good.
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  4. #114
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    Zolvolt's Avatar
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    I hate how it looks, but seraphism is insanely fun to use. I almost worry it's too powerful. But oh man the extreme trials have so many good places to use it.
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  5. #115
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    Kalinas Luminas
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Gonna just copy paste some of this from a different response:

    Seraphism is really powerful...absurdly so in fact and I kinda feel like a nerf will come for it. I think the biggest (only?) draw back to using it is the cosmetic change (and mp drain if you over do things in it).

    The initial animation of Seraphism is pretty, but then it turns my WoL into a dollar store Christmas tree topper for 20 seconds. Being put into an ugly white robe and a white-thorny headdress that covers my face is already bad enough, but it also prune my WoL's tail and ears when I use it. You can't even tell it's my WoL unless you get super close while in that form....just looks like a generic hyur under a sheet.

    Plus I go out of my way to choose glams that don't cover my feet and being in a white dress ruins that.
    I also don't like moving away from the tactician/military/academic image that it seems to be doing with this move.
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  6. #116
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    Lugubrious Pan
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I have genuinely had to choose between healing people who are on the verge of death or looking horrendous with Seraphism... I choose letting them suffer every time.

    It builds character.
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  7. #117
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousPan View Post
    I have genuinely had to choose between healing people who are on the verge of death or looking horrendous with Seraphism... I choose letting them suffer every time.

    It builds character.
    Raise needs some love too after all
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    #FFXIVHealerStrike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  8. #118
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    My hatred for seraphim has only gotten worse

    this skill is basically the antithesis of SCH as a design concept

    It removes SCH’s large noticeable weakness, it’s a fallback button when planning fails, it further erodes the identity of the regen healers, it encroaches on one of SGE’s niches AND its ugly

    the only good design of the skill is it soft conflicts with recitation
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #119
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    My hatred for seraphim has only gotten worse

    this skill is basically the antithesis of SCH as a design concept

    It removes SCH’s large noticeable weakness, it’s a fallback button when planning fails, it further erodes the identity of the regen healers, it encroaches on one of SGE’s niches AND its ugly

    the only good design of the skill is it soft conflicts with recitation
    The level 100 capstone should of been something related to all 3 of your fae. Having Eos, Selene and Sereph on the field to regen, shield and maybe even damage would of been cool.
    I really don't view SCH lore wise as a good healer I like the idea it's an arcanist who can barely heal but relies on its fae to fill the gap.
    Like come on it's level 100 if anything should show respect to your faes it should be level 100.
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  10. #120
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    Character
    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I dont mind the visuals myself even when i agree they dont really fit to Scholar.
    From what i get they fit the new goal Idendity they decided for scholar, which...without story content to go along with it is not really something one can grasp.

    But i will mention that FC Mates and people that i showed the ability all seem to love it.
    So the ability does have appeal to some people.
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