Do Mentors still have a negative stigma?

[Jeeqbit]

Before the previous expansion I was doing a mentor roulette out of boredom and got Ramuh EX as a tank.

I've cleared that every time I've got it except once, and on that time one of the sprout tanks just wasn't really a raider while the other sprout tank totally was. It was a bit unfortunate for the other sprouts, who gave it their all.

I explained that the strat I know is MT take three orbs for the thunder buff, take the first TB then OT take three orbs and swap before the second TB.

I think the issue with that usually is that it takes a while for 3 orbs to actually appear. But yeah, tanks have to figure that out to progress and at least get to second phase. If you can get to second phase, then Echo stacks and resurrections can make it a clear eventually.

It's funny to me how no one has adressed the elephant in the room that are the mentors who only get the crown because they were farming commendations on guildhest

That's extraordinarily rare. Trade mentors are often just sprouts so you can't really tell with them, but Battle mentors usually have years of experience playing the game or at least one year playing it non-stop and I find I can normally trust them to know things in duties in a mechanical sense. Like I can just do the mechanic and trust they will do it with me without worrying.

[Equitable_Remedy]

I read a thread here from a couple years ago that people kind of hate mentors and if they have the mentor crown, it's an automatic bad sign to most people.

Does that stigma still exist? Do most mentors hide their mentor status most of time? Would be nice to be able to help new players, but not sure the mentor system really makes that possible.

It's 99% a meme - don't take it too seriously.

[PyurBlue]

I wear the crown for its intended purpose and have never received negative comments. Most new players either don't know what it means or see it as a sign that the wearer is willing to help once they've been introduced to NN. From my experience the mentor system works as it is supposed to, many newer players are sad to leave. While being a mentor isn't necessary if you want to help others, having access to NN makes it much easier to help more people and to help them over the course of their journey rather than once or twice during a chance meeting.

There are some people that look down on the mentor system, and the occasional bad mentor. I don't pay any mind to the former and the latter is handled by other mentors.

[Gokki]

I wear the crown for its intended purpose and have never received negative comments. Most new players either don't know what it means or see it as a sign that the wearer is willing to help once they've been introduced to NN. From my experience the mentor system works as it is supposed to, many newer players are sad to leave. While being a mentor isn't necessary if you want to help others, having access to NN makes it much easier to help more people and to help them over the course of their journey rather than once or twice during a chance meeting.

There are some people that look down on the mentor system, and the occasional bad mentor. I don't pay any mind to the former and the latter is handled by other mentors.

100% agree.

[Zeastria]

Yes it has bad reputations, and will always have.
This is because bad experiences are always remembered, the good ones are forgotten.
You can hide the crown and have access to NN chat, hiding it does not prevent you from helping new players at all.
Or you can just wear it and ignore the bad reputation it has

[Jojoya]

You don't have to be a mentor to help new players if you're worried about any attached stigma. Access to Novice Network does help but isn't necessary.

If you do want to be a mentor, just hide the crown if you're worried about it. You don't need to have it displayed unless you're doing Mentor Roulette.

[Rithy255]

As a mentor you are generally going to stick out more if you are making mistakes. I think it's good to keep in mind that most people may have high expectations of you because of that if you're wanting to become a mentor.

But In general I also think it goes both ways... sometimes people think mentors can just remember everything about every single instance, which is something I can't do after 7000+ hours of the game, Sometimes they're going to make mistakes too and that's fine, aslong as they know the game pretty well and will try to help new players who ask, I think they're doing a decent job.

[Jeeqbit]

As a mentor you are generally going to stick out more if you are making mistakes. I think it's good to keep in mind that most people may have high expectations of you because of that if you're wanting to become a mentor.

True. I enjoy that aspect of it. I suppose it's a bit like playing a BLM where you can easily lose your stacks. It makes the consequence a bit more if you mess up.

sometimes people think mentors can just remember everything about every single instance

I aim to do exactly that and mostly I do. But rarely I only vaguely remember something, or I've just lost the sense of timing for it and need a pull or few to get it back again. Especially when it's an old savage fight. I can regain all my old habits but it takes some pulls to get them back and dig them out of my memory.

But I know I'm an extreme minority here and probably any other mentor wouldn't remember half of what I do. There are just an awful lot of fights in the game that even mentors that play a lot probably just don't remember, or, didn't play when it was current content and never understood the mechanics.

[Myrany]

There once was a time I aspired to be a mentor. Then I actually got into NN on several different Data Centers. No thanks not going to do it. NN annoys the tar out of me.

These days I just try and help out lost looking sprouts when I find them. Genuine sprouts are pretty easy to spot many times. Also not everyone that lost the sprout symbol has everything figured out. Just look for someone that obviously doesn't understand what is going on and jump in to help.

[Zordrage]

I Would not call it a Stigma sure there are some really Elitist and agressive FFxiv Fanboy Mentors out there but there are bad apples in everything to be Honest.
im personaly working on getting it and i like helping people without being a jerk about it.