Echoes of Vana'diel Expectations? Hopes?

[Enkidoh]

Reallty guys, I loved FFXI as much as you, but also, let's be realistic here (and perhaps brutally so). This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing - it's going to be a series of battles against FFXIV enemies in a FFXIV specific storyline with a few FFXI bosses and location names thrown in for fanservice, because we've already had this (Eureka, Alzadaal's Legacy). And this is because Vana'diel has already been established (and stated by the development team in fact), as a seperate world and universe from Hydaelyn and it's Shards, which is extremely difficult to get to, and we've already had several Vana'dielan residents appear here temporarily (Shantotto, Iroha).

I'm calling it now, 'Shadowlord' is simply going to turn out to be a roegadyn pirate corrupted by a Voidsent, and 'Castle Zvahl' is going to be a Turalian ruin overrun by said Voidsent.

Just temper your expectations, because I can guarantee you're going to be disappointed otherwise as it simply will not be what you're expecting (I mean, look at all the complaints about Myths of the Realm with how that story turned out).

[Fawkes]

This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing - it's going to be a series of battles against FFXIV enemies in a FFXIV specific storyline with a few FFXI bosses and location names thrown in for fanservice, because we've already had this (Eureka, Alzadaal's Legacy). And this is because Vana'diel has already been established (and stated by the development team in fact), as a seperate world and universe from Hydaelyn and it's Shards, which is extremely difficult to get to, and we've already had several Vana'dielan residents appear here temporarily (Shantotto, Iroha).

You think it's going to be a FFXI-themed-but-not-actually-FFXI-related fanservice because we already had that, but you don't think it's going to have FFXI characters traversing dimensions because we already had that?

[MikkoAkure]

Reallty guys, I loved FFXI as much as you, but also, let's be realistic here (and perhaps brutally so). This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing - it's going to be a series of battles against FFXIV enemies in a FFXIV specific storyline with a few FFXI bosses and location names thrown in for fanservice, because we've already had this (Eureka, Alzadaal's Legacy). And this is because Vana'diel has already been established (and stated by the development team in fact), as a seperate world and universe from Hydaelyn and it's Shards, which is extremely difficult to get to, and we've already had several Vana'dielan residents appear here temporarily (Shantotto, Iroha).

I'm calling it now, 'Shadowlord' is simply going to turn out to be a roegadyn pirate corrupted by a Voidsent, and 'Castle Zvahl' is going to be a Turalian ruin overrun by said Voidsent.

Just temper your expectations, because I can guarantee you're going to be disappointed otherwise as it simply will not be what you're expecting (I mean, look at all the complaints about Myths of the Realm with how that story turned out).

I never went as far as to think that we’d be doing FFXI-style gameplay but as for everything else, all the other FF games are wholly separate worlds too but bits of them, and in Ivalice’s case a very large bit, have been copy-pasted into Hydaelyn.

Travel to other worlds isn’t off the table either because NieR raid had a space station suddenly crash into the First after teleporting from Earth orbit and the last phase of the last boss took place in what appears to at least be a reconstruction of Tokyo (if not the actual thing petrified in WCS, it wasn’t too clear to me) and the boss weaponized the Tokyo Metro and the Square-Enix HQ building so I don’t think teleportation is off the table. Especially when cross-world travel from Vana’diel was going to be a whole actual thing in Tanaka’s original vision of FFXIV and is something at least 1 character has already accomplished.

[Bloody_Kenny]

Hope they bring a lot of FFXI gear. Cause they don't have an epidemic of skirts and maternity robes there.

As for the story, I hope it is an actual journey to Vana'diel, not the "we have Vana'diel at home" like Ivalice and Crystal Tower were. Considering both real Iroha and Shantotto world-traveled to Eorzea in their events.

[Nebelheim]

Reallty guys, I loved FFXI as much as you, but also, let's be realistic here (and perhaps brutally so). This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing - it's going to be a series of battles against FFXIV enemies in a FFXIV specific storyline with a few FFXI bosses and location names thrown in for fanservice, because we've already had this (Eureka, Alzadaal's Legacy). And this is because Vana'diel has already been established (and stated by the development team in fact), as a seperate world and universe from Hydaelyn and it's Shards, which is extremely difficult to get to, and we've already had several Vana'dielan residents appear here temporarily (Shantotto, Iroha).

I'm calling it now, 'Shadowlord' is simply going to turn out to be a roegadyn pirate corrupted by a Voidsent, and 'Castle Zvahl' is going to be a Turalian ruin overrun by said Voidsent.

Just temper your expectations, because I can guarantee you're going to be disappointed otherwise as it simply will not be what you're expecting (I mean, look at all the complaints about Myths of the Realm with how that story turned out).

I'm sure they wouldn't be wasting there time with an alliance raid crossover if there just going to use ff14 zones with ff11 names slapped on them and some knockoff characters with ff11 cosplay.

[Roda]

Reallty guys, I loved FFXI as much as you, but also, let's be realistic here (and perhaps brutally so). This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing - it's going to be a series of battles against FFXIV enemies in a FFXIV specific storyline with a few FFXI bosses and location names thrown in for fanservice, because we've already had this (Eureka, Alzadaal's Legacy). And this is because Vana'diel has already been established (and stated by the development team in fact), as a seperate world and universe from Hydaelyn and it's Shards, which is extremely difficult to get to, and we've already had several Vana'dielan residents appear here temporarily (Shantotto, Iroha).

I'm calling it now, 'Shadowlord' is simply going to turn out to be a roegadyn pirate corrupted by a Voidsent, and 'Castle Zvahl' is going to be a Turalian ruin overrun by said Voidsent.

Just temper your expectations, because I can guarantee you're going to be disappointed otherwise as it simply will not be what you're expecting (I mean, look at all the complaints about Myths of the Realm with how that story turned out).

In a post-nier raid world, anything is possible.

[Catwho]

My head canon is that XIV is not unlike Discworld - the barriers between our reality and other realities/worlds/dimensions are extremely thin as a result of the heavy magical field. Or in our case, as a result of the Sundering and the Final Days itself.

Such that even though FFXI and Vanadiel are confirmed to be not shards - that doesn't matter because the Reflections of the Source are not the only types of worlds that can leak into XIV.

Rather, the Rift marks a confluence of time and space where Meteion has been banging on the walls for so long, dragging possibilities and realities with her, that she's unintentionally created wormholes that drop smack into the Source's backyard. It's why Iroha and Shantotto landed here from XI already. It's why Noctis, Lightning, and now Clive have accidentally landed here. It's why the Nier androids landed here. It's why the Yokai Watch monsters ended up here. It's why Gilgamesh is here (he can travel the Rift canonically too.)

In that sense, it doesn't matter that those worlds aren't Shards. They're other worlds! They're connected by a different means, rather than being stacked into the same superstring space orbit the way the shards were.

[Wyssahtyn]

it'll almost certainly just be some incredibly shallow and disappointing nostalgia bait

[DrForester]

Reallty guys, I loved FFXI as much as you, but also, let's be realistic here (and perhaps brutally so). This is not going to be travelling to the literal Vana'diel and doing Dynamis or Dooms Parties in HD or even having literal FFXI NPCs like Prishe or Lion appearing

Because we all remember that absolutely zero characters from FFXII and Final Fantasy Tactics appeared in the Ivalice raids...

[Yuella]

First raid: Shadowlord
Second raid:Zilart
Third raid: Promathia
Exploratory Zone: Dynamis and you need to clear the first raid to start it