The problem with Tripling Down on Shadowbringers Job Design

[Mikey_R]

Edit: for real, just respond to ty_taurus that already answered perfectly what was the actual premise about.

I planned to as soon as I read it.

I think it goes without saying that PVP kits do not literally translate to PVE very well. We shouldn’t need to establish that because I would imagine those of us familiar with the game can see that without needing an explanation.

What is being said about PVP is that there is room to take inspiration from the PVP kits when designing adjustments for PVE. That doesn’t mean ripping things directly from PVP as they are and zealously refusing to tweak them in any way.

The PvP kits themselves are directly inspired by the PvE kits. So, logically, if you were to take the PvP kits and take inspiration from them to make a PvE kit, logically speaking, you would end up with something that looks similar to the current PvE kits.

The claim then, that the PvP kits have things that the PvE kits could take inspiration from should then be tested. This is why, you start at the PvP kit, take the things out that only apply to PvP, replace with some PvE centred things and make a new kit. Now, if what you come up with is something similar to the PvE kit, then the PvP kit really isn't that inspiring is it?

So aagin, the question is, what is so inspiring about the PvP kits that the PvE kits could learn from?

What PVP does well is job identity. Of course PVP abilities wont translate into PVE, but they should be taking note how they’re able to bring a different feeling in every job

Define Job identity. This one I am curious about. I'm pretty sure people use this term to mean different things, so what does it mean to you and anyone else who wants to answer.