The problem with Tripling Down on Shadowbringers Job Design

[VentVanitas]

Picto looks like a caster that actually seems to be designed with modern encounter design in mind without leaning too far into braindead SMN levels. while it has a pretty straightforward kit, its weird pseudo-BLM stance has interesting implications for how it may potentially interact with fights. it's pretty much what I wanted Black/White Shift to be if it ever got carried over from PvP into PvE.

[MagiusNecros]

Picto looks like a caster that actually seems to be designed with modern encounter design in mind without leaning too far into braindead SMN levels. while it has a pretty straightforward kit, its weird pseudo-BLM stance has interesting implications for how it may potentially interact with fights. it's pretty much what I wanted Black/White Shift to be if it ever got carried over from PvP into PvE.

Only at level cap. Have a feeling they will repeat same mistakes and low level content will be terrible to play. Lvl 50 Reaper and Lvl 70+ Reaper play so differently from each other. Level 30ish content will be even worse.

Pictomancer which I plan to make my main class looks like the big winner in classes to play in Dawntrail with a rewarding builder spender component in it's casting rotation and very interesting ways to approach encounters with it's sketch rotation.

The ideas on what to do with Rainbow Road casts or Element Swap is a fun thing to think about or how to weave casting in with Sketch attacks will be fun to think about.

Viper on the other hand will feel like high APM but is just going to combo cycle for maintaining self buffs and becoming Reaper 2.0 during Awaken which is a 1 to 1 copy of Enshroud. The worry here is the same with low level Reaper in that it doesn't really come together until level cap.

And sadly from experience they design everything around level cap instead of level progression.

[Supersnow845]

Only at level cap. Have a feeling they will repeat same mistakes and low level content will be terrible to play. Lvl 50 Reaper and Lvl 70+ Reaper play so differently from each other. Level 30ish content will be even worse.

Pictomancer which I plan to make my main class looks like the big winner in classes to play in Dawntrail with a rewarding builder spender component in it's casting rotation and very interesting ways to approach encounters with it's sketch rotation.

The ideas on what to do with Rainbow Road casts or Element Swap is a fun thing to think about or how to weave casting in with Sketch attacks will be fun to think about.

Viper on the other hand will feel like high APM but is just going to combo cycle for maintaining self buffs and becoming Reaper 2.0 during Awaken which is a 1 to 1 copy of Enshroud. The worry here is the same with low level Reaper in that it doesn't really come together until level cap.

And sadly from experience they design everything around level cap instead of level progression.

The skill level from each of the important skills is as follows

Level 10; self shield
Level 20; dash
Level 25; full AOE 1-2-3
Level 30; creature motif with Pom wings and moogle beam
Level 50; full weapon motif
Level 60; inverted artherhue combo
Level 70; landscape canvas
Level 80; white holy
Level 90; black comet
Level 92; rainbow road
Level 100; star prism

I couldn’t see the unknown skill, the AOE utility, the 1-2-3 or the second half of creature motif

[MagiusNecros]

The skill level from each of the important skills is as follows

Level 10; self shield
Level 20; dash
Level 25; full AOE 1-2-3
Level 30; creature motif with Pom wings and moogle beam
Level 50; full weapon motif
Level 60; inverted artherhue combo
Level 70; landscape canvas
Level 80; white holy
Level 90; black comet
Level 92; rainbow road
Level 100; star prism

I couldn’t see the unknown skill, the AOE utility, the 1-2-3 or the second half of creature motif

Here. This gives a good rundown until I assume when we get a info blowout in June or maybe even May 31st. Media tour ends on May 30th.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._simple_maybe/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ancer_summary/

That's good info on the level requirements on the skills. I gotta rewatch the LL footage again.