The problem with Tripling Down on Shadowbringers Job Design

[Valence]

I gave you free reign to take any PvP kit and adapt it into a PvE environment. I placed no constraints on how you done that, I never said you had use the current PvE rotation, you could do whatever you wanted, as long as the spirit of the PvP rotation is still there.

I also never complained that you basically made the PvE kit, I made an observation. The fact you used the PvE rotation as a base means it isn't as bad as you first implied. This whole thing was on the premise that, with slight adjustments, PvP kits would work well in PvE. The fact you started with the PvE rotation goes against the whole idea of the exercise.

You say you want the tools to provide different effects, which is fine, but also know that the ones with the highest damage will be placed into burst windows, so you already have a restriction there. Knowing that you can go through 2 cycles in 2 minutes means you will want to do that, which further restricts when you can use specific tools as you don't want to overcap the charges, otherwise you delay your burst. This assumes the tools are stronger than your basic combo, if they aren't, it becomes even worse.

Ultimately, you aren't going to achieve the same feeling you get in PvP when compared to PvE. The PvP kits are suited for PvP only, trying to fit them into PvE encounters just doesn't work.

Of course there is restrictions? What is a job toolkit if no restrictions?

I'm starting to see that you completely missed the point of everything and your whole agenda was to demonstrate that pvp kits don't directly translate into pve. Well, enjoy the strawman captain obvious, because nobody ever postulated that.

Edit: for real, just respond to ty_taurus that already answered perfectly what was the actual premise about.