Today's the earliest expected date for the Benchmark re-release

[Rekh]

Then people would complain that a graphical update to improve things hadn't improved anything. The devs can't really win here. Someone is going to be upset about something whichever way they go. They acknowledged that there may be differences and that's why they're giving a free fantasia in case there are tweaks that need to be made.

I agree with you both; they should still take feedback but artists are not perfect, they're following an art direction with improved engine specifications. Can't expect characters made in Elden Ring to look exactly the same as those in Dark Souls III as the specificatioins has changed, for example.

Again, Square enix needs to really look into adding sliders. I would expect no sliders in character creation if we were in 2012 or something, not now.

[TaleraRistain]

I agree with you both; they should still take feedback but artists are not perfect, they're following an art direction with improved engine specifications. Can't expect characters made in Elden Ring to look exactly the same as those in Dark Souls III as the specificatioins has changed, for example.

Not even really about artists being perfect or not. I think some people have made their own assumptions about what "graphical update" means and when that's not what happened they're getting upset. I'm not an art person so I didn't go in with any set expectations. But I have gone through updates in other games so I was ready for the idea that I may have to tweak things and had hoped they were going to provide a free fantasia for that. They did so which I greatly appreciate so now I'm ready to make any necessary tweaks. I've had some games where it was just changed and there was nothing we could do about it.

[CidHeiral]

You know that a fantasia will not resolve the issues people had, right? You can't tweak things because all we have is certain presets.

And telling people to "get over it", to ignore the fact that the characters that they looked at, played with, and identified with for years are forcibly changed, thats one hell of a trash take, not gonna lie. That sort of empathy lacking response is just sad, man. Do better.
It would not have been "too much" to recreate the faces we already have with higher polygon count.

That's exactly what they did, but there's always going to be differences with such an upgrade. It's honestly incredible they've gotten them as close as they have. Grow up.

[Shibi]

Oh, and by the way the reason yoshiP gives for this is not "because the staff deserve to rest on the weekend" but "because power to our offices will be cut all weekend for a building inspection". Sure seems like a great boss

Honestly, with under 4 weeks until release (isnt it), some staff will be pulling all-nighters too if Square is like any other software house. Anyone who has ever seen a release of any software behind the scenes knows there is likely a lot of very last minute clean-up going on, and I know I personally would expect be called to work many extra hours for the release date.

Weekends, even Christmas day, doesn't exist for me, if the release of the software I am involved with is close. Square will be the same, with a Japanese mindset on top to increase the work hours.

[Boblawblah]

"4 weeks until release"

4 weeks...

[Valence]

Honestly, with under 4 weeks until release (isnt it), some staff will be pulling all-nighters too if Square is like any other software house. Anyone who has ever seen a release of any software behind the scenes knows there is likely a lot of very last minute clean-up going on, and I know I personally would expect be called to work many extra hours for the release date.

Weekends, even Christmas day, doesn't exist for me, if the release of the software I am involved with is close. Square will be the same, with a Japanese mindset on top to increase the work hours.

I hope they do get paid for overtime.

Unpaid crunch time can go rot in hell.

[Nyxs]

You know that a fantasia will not resolve the issues people had, right? You can't tweak things because all we have is certain presets.

And telling people to "get over it", to ignore the fact that the characters that they looked at, played with, and identified with for years are forcibly changed, thats one hell of a trash take, not gonna lie. That sort of empathy lacking response is just sad, man. Do better.
It would not have been "too much" to recreate the faces we already have with higher polygon count.

It will probably make you look better ngl. You should be happy

On a side note: I hope they let them rest and get nourishments properly. I am excited for DT but I dont want my happiness to be at the cost of others health.

[justausername]

You know that a fantasia will not resolve the issues people had, right? You can't tweak things because all we have is certain presets.

And telling people to "get over it", to ignore the fact that the characters that they looked at, played with, and identified with for years are forcibly changed, thats one hell of a trash take, not gonna lie. That sort of empathy lacking response is just sad, man. Do better.
It would not have been "too much" to recreate the faces we already have with higher polygon count.

Well you see, when you increase the polygon count... things are going to look a little different. In a lot of cases that IS all they did. And people still rioted. Some of the stuff yeah, was actually changed, but they have taken feedback, and will continue to do so as stated in the post made on the lodestone. That ALSO being said, a lot of the old faces had a lot of issues that needed fixes in the first place that people had been complaining about for years. So why NOT fix them while going in to increase the polygon count? They could have just said 'too bad, this is what you're getting, live with it'. But instead they took feedback and are making and will keep making changes, and gave a free fantasia for those who can't handle it. If that isn't enough for you then... you really DO need to look deeper into yourself and figure out why you are so attached to some pixels, even if you've been playing for 10 years as the same character, and never changed once, some of the aggression that was on display over a graphics update is SERIOUSLY concerning.

[Averax]

So it's June 3rd in japan right now. Hopefully see the benchmark later tonight after they head into the office. Bout 5am there as of posting this.

[Taliriah]

Honestly, with under 4 weeks until release (isnt it), some staff will be pulling all-nighters too if Square is like any other software house. Anyone who has ever seen a release of any software behind the scenes knows there is likely a lot of very last minute clean-up going on, and I know I personally would expect be called to work many extra hours for the release date.

Weekends, even Christmas day, doesn't exist for me, if the release of the software I am involved with is close. Square will be the same, with a Japanese mindset on top to increase the work hours.

As someone who has worked as a programmer on multiple release of a AAA game franchise in the past decade (and yes, got involved in awful last minute bugs) and can't even remember the last time I worked overtime, much less something as ludicrous as pulling an all nighter, I have this to say:
Skill. Issues. (not on your part, but the company you're working for).