Remove moggle tome events from frontline

[Mawlzy]

I wonder if people who have never unlocked FL are getting this as their 20- or 50-tome reward? Based on what I've gotten over the two events, it seems they are being used to encourage people to try content they've never done before. (Like I got Ocean Fishing and Palace of the Dead floor 51.) That would likely compound the problem.

[EvianYmir89]

Yesterday, it was the worst day of the tomes event. I’m normally getting either first or second with the occasional 3rd place where it was really bad. I did like 25 matches yesterday with 13 being last place. You can clearly see people who follow the leader and feeding or just fighting the team in second place even with the more veteran players giving callouts trying to direct traffic. Atleast 4 of those losses had my team not even break 700. This is why it needs to be removed or as someone said early, give out far less lines for 3rd. It won’t stop the apathy from the “I’m just here for tomes” but it will definitely remove a lot of them from the player pool since 100 matches for an earring doesn’t sound enticing.

[Mistress_Irika]

Reason why frontlines is so attractive over dungeons is because you're not losing resources. You're not worrying about gear duration. You're not worrying about killing mobs and bosses and potentially being punished to start over. You can literally turn your brain off, and you'll still earn your reward regardless of how you do. It's always been like this event or not. It is a plus to everyone to go visit whether you hate it or not because of those reasons alone. Good luck finding players that are serious about the mode, because it's very few that exist.

[EvianYmir89]

A lot more people care about frontlines than cc, but the devs seem to give a care about that. Why not just throw the tomes into cc?

[pecorino]

I don't really think there's any reason for Frontline to be included in these events generally, as there is really no major issue with the popularity of the mode. Queue times are always reasonable with respect to the time of day on populated data centers. Evidently, this event has caused a great deal of harm to the overall player experience in Frontline. This is a huge step in the wrong direction, considering how many serious grievances players already have with Frontline.

Tainting the perception of Frontline right before a new expansion launch also just seems problematic on numerous fronts, and I fear people will think twice about returning to the mode when updates are presented to us because of how badly they've been burned. It's a poor parting gift from Endwalker.

[yurukii]

I'd rather they afk somewhere than mindlessly charge enemies and get farmed miles away from the rest of their team. 30 matches yesterday and the bottom 8 players accounted for 90% of the team's deaths in each of them.
My team would have won every single match if they those people had actually done nothing. They're actually causing me to adjust tactics because they are so uncarryable.

Having played with Olivia's call outs and then without, the difference is insane. We get so many people who get farmed and we get curb stomped, because they've given so much BH that it snowballs. It's insane.

[Mawlzy]

I don't really think there's any reason for Frontline to be included in these events generally, as there is really no major issue with the popularity of the mode. Queue times are always reasonable with respect to the time of day on populated data centers. Evidently, this event has caused a great deal of harm to the overall player experience in Frontline. This is a huge step in the wrong direction, considering how many serious grievances players already have with Frontline.

Tainting the perception of Frontline right before a new expansion launch also just seems problematic on numerous fronts, and I fear people will think twice about returning to the mode when updates are presented to us because of how badly they've been burned. It's a poor parting gift from Endwalker.

100% this. I actually suggested to the premade commanders that they back off for this event for this very reason. It fell on deaf ears, coupled to myopic eyes.

[Mawlzy]

Having played with Olivia's call outs and then without, the difference is insane. We get so many people who get farmed and we get curb stomped, because they've given so much BH that it snowballs. It's insane.

It's not just her call-outs, it's the efficiency of her premades. If you create a light party pre-queue, and actually ask for specific jobs from those experienced playing them, the result is a predictable massacre. Why anybody would want to play with such a baked in advantage I have no idea. Those on the other side of the battlefield certainly aren't enjoying it.

The last few days I've seen in chat more complaints, more snarky comments, more push-back against commanders. People are pissed off.

[CNitsah]

Honestly, even in regular times, teams are not that much better. When you're stuck on a team that tells you "just ignore the nodes, fight gives you the victory", then you have to kill twice or thrice as much people just to get even to the other team node points. In 95% of the case, a randomly formed team is not good enough to have the luxury to ignore nodes, but in most frontlines, you have 7 or 8 guys that still go by that, and react to nodes spawn when the other team already occupy the field, if ever. People should learn to read the map, jump on nodes, and fight at nodes. Both have their importance. I'm not even good reading the fight or making call, but it's still enough to see the average FL player has an abysmal lvl, even in regular time.

Think rival wings has this issue too, I've been losing so bad no matter how good I play or how well my callouts are, base getting constantly attacked and my team just feeding.

It's funny, made a post asking for more activity for RW in the form of a roulette, then I get my more activity and it's absolutely miserable. Careful what you wish for people

On my DC, you can't even enter RW out of those event, the waiting time is infinite. So all for keeping them for Rival wings.

[Themarvin]

Keep them there by all means for PvP that is, that is how you get a bigger playerbase out of it and this more that know and this bigger pool of players that know how to actually exploit the premades weaknesses this better... it is simple.. go around and hit them from behind and the side at the right time... the triggers DRK and more has to go in and then flee out to the back... smash and tag them while they try to heal up = win, rinse and repeat if they coming for your team spread and pull back eventually the other team will do the same.

Pre-mades only work with going in 1 direction. any other side to it is their ultimate weak spot.