Remove moggle tome events from frontline

[CNitsah]

Honestly, even in regular times, teams are not that much better. When you're stuck on a team that tells you "just ignore the nodes, fight gives you the victory", then you have to kill twice or thrice as much people just to get even to the other team node points. In 95% of the case, a randomly formed team is not good enough to have the luxury to ignore nodes, but in most frontlines, you have 7 or 8 guys that still go by that, and react to nodes spawn when the other team already occupy the field, if ever. People should learn to read the map, jump on nodes, and fight at nodes. Both have their importance. I'm not even good reading the fight or making call, but it's still enough to see the average FL player has an abysmal lvl, even in regular time.

Think rival wings has this issue too, I've been losing so bad no matter how good I play or how well my callouts are, base getting constantly attacked and my team just feeding.

It's funny, made a post asking for more activity for RW in the form of a roulette, then I get my more activity and it's absolutely miserable. Careful what you wish for people

On my DC, you can't even enter RW out of those event, the waiting time is infinite. So all for keeping them for Rival wings.

[Themarvin]

Keep them there by all means for PvP that is, that is how you get a bigger playerbase out of it and this more that know and this bigger pool of players that know how to actually exploit the premades weaknesses this better... it is simple.. go around and hit them from behind and the side at the right time... the triggers DRK and more has to go in and then flee out to the back... smash and tag them while they try to heal up = win, rinse and repeat if they coming for your team spread and pull back eventually the other team will do the same.

Pre-mades only work with going in 1 direction. any other side to it is their ultimate weak spot.

[Mawlzy]

Keep them there by all means for PvP that is, that is how you get a bigger playerbase out of it and this more that know and this bigger pool of players that know how to actually exploit the premades weaknesses this better... it is simple.. go around and hit them from behind and the side at the right time... the triggers DRK and more has to go in and then flee out to the back... smash and tag them while they try to heal up = win, rinse and repeat if they coming for your team spread and pull back eventually the other team will do the same.

Pre-mades only work with going in 1 direction. any other side to it is their ultimate weak spot.

What? .......

[Araxes]

I am not against tome Rewards in pvp in general, I am more bothered by the : "I do not care if we win, i get tomes either way." crowd.

So yes, only giving the winning Team Tomes would be a solution. If there wasn't the premade/queuesyncer problem.

[Mistress_Irika]

Sometimes during the event I get games like this that makes me wonders why I am playing solo queue in the first place. I normally do not top the damage leaderboards. However, in cases that I do this is usually my result half of my games. This is only a self serving reminder to me that no matter how much work I put into fights games cannot be carried alone. After all, there is no I or solo in the word team. This zerg only strategy sucks. Yet, this is the only one I can rely on since everyone only chooses to use this strategy faithfully whether it's farming objectives or farming kills.

In the second picture I may have been going against a premade. I'm not sure. Maybe you may have a better understanding. Either way, I felt useless.

[thereal_aliceanders]

The best I've seen so far were two people ERPing in the corner, and they were on different teams. I took pleasure in killing them both. #pvperpblocker

[Balmung_Griffin]

I don't really think there's any reason for Frontline to be included in these events generally, as there is really no major issue with the popularity of the mode. Queue times are always reasonable with respect to the time of day on populated data centers. Evidently, this event has caused a great deal of harm to the overall player experience in Frontline. This is a huge step in the wrong direction, considering how many serious grievances players already have with Frontline.

Tainting the perception of Frontline right before a new expansion launch also just seems problematic on numerous fronts, and I fear people will think twice about returning to the mode when updates are presented to us because of how badly they've been burned. It's a poor parting gift from Endwalker.

That pretty much sums it up.
It's going to be worse in DT, people queueing for XP.

[EmilySummerstar]

Every activity needs new people. Before I liked pvp, I was terrified. I played once and didn't come back for a year. With most new people, look after them and they'll listen. Frontlines is confusing and they'll follow anyone who seems to have a clue.

Premades on the other hand run around like they own everything. The few times I've joined some, it felt like griefing. Poor sports and no respect for anybody. But you won't catch any of them solo queuing.

[Mawlzy]

Every activity needs new people. Before I liked pvp, I was terrified. I played once and didn't come back for a year. With most new people, look after them and they'll listen. Frontlines is confusing and they'll follow anyone who seems to have a clue.

Premades on the other hand run around like they own everything. The few times I've joined some, it felt like griefing. Poor sports and no respect for anybody. But you won't catch any of them solo queuing.

Agreed, but in terms of sheer arrogance nothing compares to those Princesses who Q-synch their events without bothering to use an off-DC language filter. Apparently it's their game mode to do with as they see fit, and the fact regular players get dumped in their self-absorbed experiments is of no concern to them whatsoever. The advice I got from one of them? "Cry more." It's probably no coincidence that the majority of these abusers are also regular members of premades.

This thread expresses justifiable frustration at Mogtomers who put in no effort or, somewhat remarkably, make out with the enemy. This is mild compared to veteran PvPers abusing the mode and other players so they can dress up and all play Gunbreaker.

[EmilySummerstar]

Agreed, but in terms of sheer arrogance nothing compares to those Princesses who Q-synch their events without bothering to use an off-DC language filter. Apparently it's their game mode to do with as they see fit, and the fact regular players get dumped in their self-absorbed experiments is of no concern to them whatsoever. The advice I got from one of them? "Cry more." It's probably no coincidence that the majority of these abusers are also regular members of premades.

This thread expresses justifiable frustration at Mogtomers who put in no effort or, somewhat remarkably, make out with the enemy. This is mild compared to veteran PvPers abusing the mode and other players so they can dress up and all play Gunbreaker.

That is frustrating. Recently went back to try to extract a few team members only to have them not bother to take advantage of my bind. Not sure if they were new or just didn't care. Nearly died trying to save them.

Consider that even if you can predict what the other teams are going to do and you understand what you need to do to counter, the unknown will always in determining what your team will do. Players like that make it even worse.