Will there be SOLO queue for PVP in Dawntrail

[Teno]

you're comparing unranked frontlines to ranked cc queues. apples to oranges.

and you call my take bad, lol.

if there was such a thing as ranked frontlines, it wouldn't pop either. and sure. most FL players are repeat players. they repeat it once a day for the roulette.

I'm comparing participation. So yes, yours is a bad take indeed.
Also, your last sentence is just very, very telling. That is, you have no clue what you're doing in FL and no clue who you play with or who you are facing. In short, clueless about FL.

[Valence]

People are so mad about broken combos and a pvp design not suited for frontlines that they're ready to give the middlefinger to everybody that just like queuing with their friends in the process. It's sad.

[Stasya]

People are so mad about broken combos and a pvp design not suited for frontlines that they're ready to give the middlefinger to everybody that just like queuing with their friends in the process. It's sad.

Queueing with friends who just happened to pick drk etc to destroy entire parties each lb and make match miserable for 2 opposing teams.

No ty, give people SOLO queue, even if it will be longer.

if people want to tryhard it who cares. let them flex their "amazing" pvp skills as they press three buttons on top of a dark knight pull then run away because they haven't figured out anything else yet. they can pat themselves on the back as they aoe down some dad gamers who dont even know whats going on.

I see what's going on and i can't help these dad gamers because i am playing solo, so nope, party should face against each other just like in any other normal pvp game for example dota

[Valence]

Queueing with friends who just happened to pick drk etc to destroy entire parties each lb and make match miserable for 2 opposing teams.

No ty, give people SOLO queue, even if it will be longer.

You're assuming a lot, especially when it comes to groups that don't even field DRK or any meta jobs. I don't think I remember an actual day I queued with friends where we went for anything remotely close. But I guess we can continue putting all the groups into the same bag for the sake of convenience.

Your solo queue won't be longer if it's the default queue anyway. It's the multiplayer queue that's gonna be dead, essentially prompting everybody to play solo unless they want to queue sync in their corner.

[Stasya]

You're assuming a lot, especially when it comes to groups that don't even field DRK or any meta jobs. I don't think I remember an actual day I queued with friends where we went for anything remotely close. But I guess we can continue putting all the groups into the same bag for the sake of convenience.

Your solo queue won't be longer if it's the default queue anyway. It's the multiplayer queue that's gonna be dead, essentially prompting everybody to play solo unless they want to queue sync in their corner.

So be it, you want to stomp people? Go wait in queue (oops and face same stack people ) If you think groups vs groups is a bad idea try to play good mm games like dota vs coordinated party .....

[Teno]

let's try not to misunderstand each other. Look, I run with friends sometimes too, so it's cool if you want to queue up with your pals. But it's important that matches are fair, I think if you are in a group and you should fight with another group with similar skill level. so things are balanced out. And, I'm not against any "broken combos" either. With a bit of map smarts and good judgment, we can handle whatever comes our way



You are right! This MMORPG is mostly for casual players. If I wanted serious PvP action, I'd jump into Dota or CS go something like that.

But you know what? FL PvP could be awesome. There's a lot of good stuff happening, and it's usually a blast whether you're solo or with a group (at least for me). I'm just saying, let's give solo players a fair option and see how it pans out. It's weird how some people get so worked up and think I'm against group play. Not true at all.

The solo option already is fair. FL already is good. Premades' odds are stacked in their favor, but gitting gud goes a long way in fighting them. And you can do it casually, no need to try hard or make it competitive, it's just pvp in an mmo and it's never been serious anyway.

And sometimes it's not even premades, just good players being put together because of rng.

[Valence]

let's try not to misunderstand each other. Look, I run with friends sometimes too, so it's cool if you want to queue up with your pals. But it's important that matches are fair, I think if you are in a group and you should fight with another group with similar skill level. so things are balanced out. And, I'm not against any "broken combos" either. With a bit of map smarts and good judgment, we can handle whatever comes our way.

I still do believe the fundamental problem emerges from uses of a system that is primarily not designed for the mode but for CC, and that if one wants to address the problem, it's by taking a long hard look at said problem instead of just axing any multiplayer options whatsoever.

[Valence]

I'm sorry but what does this even have to do with dota? That comparison holds zero water.

I also don't queue up in meta premades. I actually have never tried so far.