Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
I've seen defeatism long before these "DRK premades ruins FL" even came to be. Meta stacking probably contributes, but it's not the only factor. I think it's unfair to laser focus on them & potentially undermining the other factors.

At the end of the day, what I have issue with is 'the unconducive mindset' (i.e. don't even try, vendetta, poor sportmanship, etc) rather than 'how they choose to play'. The only way for me to reduce that irritation to tolerable degree is to party up with my friends. We try to win, but if it's a loss then it is what it is, no hard feelings---off to another game we go.
Well sure, defeatism/apathy has multiple sources, and the premade source and Q-synching long predates the DRK+ meta. But it's completely fair to note that I overfocus on premades. The likely reason for this is that I intensely dislike playing on the same team as a premade. But I agree with you that other sources of people simply not trying are important to understand and, in a perfect world, eradicate.