Idea for Crafters/Gatherer to team up with DoW/DoM

[Alise]

I would like some quests that would request DoL, DoH, and DoW/DoM to work together as a team to achieve something.

This could be implement easily like any old traditional RPG where you have to find some rare ore deep inside the dungeon and fight dangerous golem boss. The idea is to have a quest that ask you to mine the ore inside very dangerous dungeon that always have aggro mob respawn at very high rate. DoW/DoM will have to be body guard to protect the gatherer who is mining in the same spot.


the same can be implement with crafters + gatherer + DoW party quest idea by adding reason that crafter must craft item suddently after the gatherer get it. (so that DoW/DoM protection is needed)
R36 weaver quest can be example of the materials that much be crafted as soon as obtain. We just need more stuff like that and a quest base on party to work together.

This will help players to feel adventure, because the current Erozea is too safe, and DoL always solo.

[origamikitsune]

I would like to fights where you have to mine the item from the MOB itself, while it was being fought with. Give it a moderate AoE attack so the healers have to keep you alive and there you go.

[Alise]

That is a good idea too. May be the ore is inside of the golem itself!
or you log branch from walking wood.

it can implement in many kinds to add variety.

[moatcarp]

Yeah, I've said to my LS a number of times that you could have NMs where DoL can help you out a lot like:

Treant NM where occasionally it will put down roots to gain massive HP regen and the only way to stop the roots are to have Botanists chop them (they could also reward Bloodwood or something appropriate that could be used to make rewards).

Coblyn NM that could have a turtle move where you can't damage it at all until Miners mine enough of it's protective layer of minerals off.

I'm sure you could come up with something for fishers.

As for DoH... it's a bit more tricky. I could see them maybe able to participate by being able to incap easily in certain ways: Armorer vs. armored opponent or something, Culinarian could 'lay out poisoned foods' to debuff the mob (like in Monster Hunter!), things like that.

Of course I don't think any of this would be really appealing unless the DoH / DoL were rewarded the same as DoW. I don't think this would need to be limited to only NMs. I also don't think anyone would bother unless DoH / DoL was getting SP the same as the DoW were.

EDIT: another thought is that LW could incap limbs easily because they are familiar with all the tendons and such. Anyway, I don't know how realistic this all is or not but it could be one neat way of doing things imo.

[AlexiaKidd]

The original plan for DoH and DoW was to have them fight side by side with DoW and DoM, this was pulled at the last minute though, don't know why. After launch on the FFXIV Official site they still had thing's up about them like Miner having treasure hunter making it a THF type class and Blacksmith wielding a hammer as it's weapon of choice.

This would go a long way to explain the huge grind that there is for crafters and gatherers as they weren't designed to level up by synthing and gathering only, they were supposed to gain ranks in battle along side DoW/DoM as well.

I hope SE gets around to giving back DoH/DoL their abilities to fight or if not stop putting so much emphasis on them in the game and reduce them to side classes to do. The problem atm is the game was designed so ANY class could do the story missions, however as they removed DoH/DoL abilities to fight they have had to dumb down the missions so that they can still be completed by them for the most part. I mean come on, are we supposed to believe a Rank 50 weaver is going to topple the Garlean Empire????

[Mere]

I love your idea Alise, it does give a sense of adventure!

I can imagine ppl at the cities shouting for a miner to complete their quest (because they didn't level that class), or miners shouting for bodyguards.

[Vesper]

Even though Vanguard was a huge letdown originally. One of the things I loved about that game IRC was the ability to lumberjack dead treants after you killed them. Something like that in this game would be excellent. Kill a copper cobyln you then get 1 chance at mining it. Kill a Malboro you get 1 shot at lumberjacking or harvesting it.

[Alise]

harvesting from crop sound like monster hunter lol.

but I m sure JP do like that.

[moatcarp]

WoW lets you skin downed animals so it's not just MH :O

Still, I don't know if that would be enough for DoL to tag along with a party, would it?

[Alise]

WoW lets you skin downed animals so it's not just MH :O

Still, I don't know if that would be enough for DoL to tag along with a party, would it?

if this system is implement and DoL is lacking, surely it will encourage more people to try DoL, and it will be enough at no time! ^^