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  1. #21
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    Whens SE going to give me a Dislike button?
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  2. 05-21-2024 06:12 AM

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    I got confused.

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    What you leave out is that every major technological evolution has also come with significant negative societal effects until humankind has regulated its worst uses. For example, labor and safety laws for factories; regulatory agencies for food and drug mass manufacturing; road and safety laws for the internal combustion engine; medical regulatory agencies at the advent of medicine and surgery. The list goes on and on.

    My concern is the various thought that has to go into making AI safe and a net good for society has not yet happened and a lot of people are going to be hurt along the way until it is.
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  4. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic_at_the_Discord View Post
    would much rather have a handful of hand-crafted models that get recolors every few months than an bottomless swamp of soulless sludge.
    I definitely wouldn't. I'm unsure what a machine could come up with that has any less soul than clicking CTRL C and CTRL V on my keyboard and changing the color on an armor and call it a day. At the end of the day no matter how much push back AI receives, just like any other revolutionary inventions have in the past it will become a dominant tool sooner or later.

    It would be cool to see it used for some nice in game assets whenever the company is too short staffed to create those assets themselves. There is a clear shortcoming in the capability of creating assets for all of XIVs content that drops loot, and this could shore up the weakness. If all assets were unique and well-made then I would probably be against AI replacing those. This is not the case though. I have no problem replacing reused assets that didn't bring anything new to the table.


    I wanted to see how soulless an AI armor would look like to convince me to prefer the copy pasted assets we have, so simply openning up whatever AI windows bundles in with PCs now a days I asked it to create a fantasy armor set and to show me an elf wearing it.

    here is the result:





    NGL, those armor sets look SUUUUPER cool, and I would much rather have some of those sets in game than another armor set like the "Classical" version we got in Endwalker, which was just the stormblood PvP armor again. These are crafted sets too, meaning players take time in game to make them and they are just crafting a reskin basically...
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    Last edited by Ath192; 05-21-2024 at 07:55 AM.

  5. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    And as I said, use it for concept art, still would need people to actually turn it into actual ingame content and what not.
    What would be the benefit of that? Art still has to be created to be fed into the AI program to reconfigure into concept art, so why not just get people to create the concepts directly from their own ideas (ie. exactly what they're already doing) and skip a needlessly complicated and expensive part of the process that makes little difference to the end result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What would be the benefit of that? Art still has to be created to be fed into the AI program to reconfigure into concept art, so why not just get people to create the concepts directly from their own ideas (ie. exactly what they're already doing) and skip a needlessly complicated and expensive part of the process that makes little difference to the end result?
    Mostly speed up the process, since with a good enough machine they can make easily a few hundred sketches in an hour and see if it managed to put something good together to start working off of.
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    The fact we're discussing AI just shows SE has a problem. 1 Modder is able to create viera/hrothgar hats with ear holes and overall high quality meshing-work.

    Something SE can't do in 6+ years, almost 7 now.

    As paying consumers it's understandable we'd cry out for SE to adopt AI to get things like these done? I think it is. Something as simple as hats should not take a professional company 7 years.

    Biizzard itself is blushing at SE's ability to tell its customers "we'll fix it later" when it comes to everything now.
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  8. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I would prefer this than more reskinned stuff in dungeons or anywhere else please. Consider if there is ever instances where there is no time or budget to hand make them, just use the AI instead of making a reskin of an existing asset. And worse yet, an undyeable reskin.
    Begone, heathen.
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    Nah, I'm good on supporting removing jobs from people and encouraging a toxic precedent to be set in the industry.
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