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    "This in-game currency is worthless, I do absolutely nothing with it."
    "Then give it away to someone."
    "Don't be stupid, do you know how much it is worth?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    "This in-game currency is worthless, I do absolutely nothing with it."
    "Then give it away to someone."
    "Don't be stupid, do you know how much it is worth?!"
    "I have a lot of gil and nothing to spend it on so it feels worthless. I want it to be worth something."
    "Give it to me for free then."
    "No, I want it to be worth something."

    No logical inconsistency. You're just reading OP in bad faith for Twitter Dunk Points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    "I have a lot of gil and nothing to spend it on so it feels worthless. I want it to be worth something."
    "Give it to me for free then."
    "No, I want it to be worth something."

    No logical inconsistency. You're just reading OP in bad faith for Twitter Dunk Points.
    Not really people are pointing out how op is saying how gil is worthless then back peddling saying it's worth something after people pointed out how their ideas will cause hyperinflation. And the people asking for gil are only saying that considering they made claims gil was worthless and if it was worthless then why not hand out gil only for them to say it's worth too much in value irl and in game. I don't think anyone was serious about asking for gil either and only making a point that the op made of it being "so worthless".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Not really people are pointing out how op is saying how gil is worthless then back peddling saying it's worth something after people pointed out how their ideas will cause hyperinflation. And the people asking for gil are only saying that considering they made claims gil was worthless and if it was worthless then why not hand out gil only for them to say it's worth too much in value irl and in game. I don't think anyone was serious about asking for gil either and only making a point that the op made of it being "so worthless".
    The only place OP fucked up was using hyperbole in the title, because there have been people who reply after reading only the title since the internet's infancy. The actual body of the post supports my interpretation.

    Inflation is caused when more money is added into a system than is taken back out, and that's exactly what happens in FF14 because the new money being created (e.g. from daily roulettes) far outpaces the small expenses like repairs, market taxes, and teleports.

    OP is suggesting adding more trade goods people will want to buy, which is a mildly deflationary measure because the marketboard will extract additional taxes as players trade them -- though I assume he wants them added so he can enjoy spending his money on things he feels are 'worthwhile' rather than because he's ideologically committed to deflation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    The only place OP fucked up was using hyperbole in the title, because there have been people who reply after reading only the title since the internet's infancy. The actual body of the post supports my interpretation.

    Inflation is caused when more money is added into a system than is taken back out, and that's exactly what happens in FF14 because the new money being created (e.g. from daily roulettes) far outpaces the small expenses like repairs, market taxes, and teleports.

    OP is suggesting adding more trade goods people will want to buy, which is a mildly deflationary measure because the marketboard will extract additional taxes as players trade them -- though I assume he wants them added so he can enjoy spending his money on things he feels are 'worthwhile' rather than because he's ideologically committed to deflation.
    There isn't inflation, at least not noticeable save on very rare items from content from past expansions that pretty much nobody does. The cap on gils as well as events when you can get rare stuff for little efforts (flood the market with items that were previously rare) takes care of that. Heck my collection of fats cats have gone down from 600k to 30k each...we saw it for other items - the Island and the Seacloth was brutal - and we're about to see the same thing with the Gabriel mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    There isn't inflation, at least not noticeable save on very rare items from content from past expansions that pretty much nobody does. The cap on gils as well as events when you can get rare stuff for little efforts (flood the market with items that were previously rare) takes care of that. Heck my collection of fats cats have gone down from 600k to 30k each...we saw it for other items - the Island and the Seacloth was brutal - and we're about to see the same thing with the Gabriel mount.
    That's true for the specific rare items that they add to the events (or to quick ventures) but there's noticeable inflation in other areas, like gear for alt jobs or interior furnishings even when they're given away for free en masse. It's not unusual for Fine Wax to sell for over 10k or a set of 70+ leveling gear for a popular job over 200k and you wouldn't say that no one does Haukke Manor or the MSQ. And of course, it's also in niches of the glamour market that aren't being supplied by Square. Even crafted glams from extremely cheap materials have been a good and consistent source of profit, which feels nice for me but probably not for some sprout who wants a simple eyepatch and must pay 70-100k for something that cost me 2k to assemble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    The only place OP fucked up was using hyperbole in the title, because there have been people who reply after reading only the title since the internet's infancy. The actual body of the post supports my interpretation.

    Inflation is caused when more money is added into a system than is taken back out, and that's exactly what happens in FF14 because the new money being created (e.g. from daily roulettes) far outpaces the small expenses like repairs, market taxes, and teleports.

    OP is suggesting adding more trade goods people will want to buy, which is a mildly deflationary measure because the marketboard will extract additional taxes as players trade them -- though I assume he wants them added so he can enjoy spending his money on things he feels are 'worthwhile' rather than because he's ideologically committed to deflation.
    dude spittin facts
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?