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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    My problem with the current FF 14 is that you are FORCE to do the MSQ to level there is nothing else to do til you unlock your first dungeon through hours of reading..
    Well it is a story-driven game, like all FF games.
    Why arent we allow pull more than 2 packs of mobs??
    We used to be able to pull right to the next boss. Think 4-8 packs. It would give tanks anxiety "uhm should I stop? is this too much?" It still kinda does in dungeons like Amdapor Keep, Wanderer's Palace, Pharos Sirius, Copperbell Mines, Haukke Manor, The Lost City of Amdapor, Halatali, Brayflox, Hullbreaker Isle and Stone Vigil, which are from the pre-walls era.

    It made tanks feel like they had to pull that much, but they simoultaneously could not handle it (especially with how the game worked back then), so you'd see a tank just hop in, pull everything, wipe, then leave in shame or blamed the healer when in reality they just couldn't survive that much.

    So SE did the right thing and added some walls. You are still able to make the dungeon more challenging by pulling more, they just provide an upper limit. Sometimes this is actually more than 2 packs, but usually it's 2.
    last, FF14 doesnt feel like a MMO anymore.. it feels like a Social hub.
    That is going to depend what you define an MMO as then. I view MMOs as huge social hubs. If I wanted a quick way to interact with hundreds of people constantly in a way that I otherwise couldn't just sitting bored on a sofa, I'd play an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Well it is a story-driven game, like all FF games.
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    This an online game man. They got to have flexibility. It is ok of they focus on story, But forcing It on me just makes it a boring chore. I will always consider it a major negative aspect of this game. Guild wars 2 doesn't force you to do the story, and l was able to do stuff in that game without doing any story for a year. That is one of the factor That kept me playing gw2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    This an online game man. They got to have flexibility. It is ok of they focus on story, But forcing It on me just makes it a boring chore. I will always consider it a major negative aspect of this game. Guild wars 2 doesn't force you to do the story, and l was able to do stuff in that game without doing any story for a year. That is one of the factor That kept me playing gw2.
    It might make sense to just play a different game that you like more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    It might make sense to just play a different game that you like more.
    I can't find lalafell in another game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    I can't find lalafell in another game.
    You could try Tera...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You could try Tera...

    It was on my radar before the 6.1 pvp rework, But the rework saved the game for me. It felt good to one shot a Tank from full health with meteo dive combo or pop a 40k heal from riddle of the earth from time to time. Overall, this is my favorite game despite its flaws that l really hate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    last, FF14 doesnt feel like a MMO anymore.. it feels like a Social hub.
    What is a MMO to you if not an online game that is a social hub?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    This an online game man. They got to have flexibility. It is ok of they focus on story, But forcing It on me just makes it a boring chore. I will always consider it a major negative aspect of this game. Guild wars 2 doesn't force you to do the story, and l was able to do stuff in that game without doing any story for a year. That is one of the factor That kept me playing gw2.
    Different games have different styles. The style of this game is to focus everything around the story. I agree that it would be nice if they had an alternate route to leveling (other than buying the jump potions) for those that aren't into story but they feel this is what is best for their game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    I can't find lalafell in another game.
    Mod your lalafell into the other games you enjoy playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Overall, this is my favorite game despite its flaws that l really hate
    I imagine we all have things we hate about this game not to mention other games we also play. It's all about finding the game that gives you the most enjoyable time.

    If FFXIV is still the one despite the flaws you see, I hope you continue to enjoy it for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    I remember the suicide bees. Those were good times.
    I still see the bees in Qarn killing players in unwary groups as much as Doom does.

    Using hunter traps strategically in WoW (before the trap launcher was added) was fun times. Crowd control in PvE was an interesting part of game play that I personally miss, but it's sadly something most players hated because they want to speed run through content and the need for crowd control was an obstacle to that.

    I wonder what MMORPGs would be like today if more players were interested in truly experiencing games and thinking their way through them instead of rushing through to collect from the loot box at the end.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 05-20-2024 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    I can't find lalafell in another game.
    Gnomes are just skinny lalas. Don't @ me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    I can't find lalafell in another game.
    trying to determine if thats a mark in the plus or minus column....
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    FF 11 is a story driven game too but it doesnt force you to do the MSQ for hours to actually do some content... You can do a lot outside of the MSQ in FF 11.. in FF 14 you stuck only doing the MSQ
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