Gutting Astro... again.....

[ThorneDynasty]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy how you can play a job like NIN basically winging it and still outperform more than half the players you find in DF just by basic rules of thumb in the game. But I don't then start crying about how Mudras are clunky and need to reworked when I realize there are plenty of players who can play the job far better than I can.

Honestly NIN and BLM are probably blessed by the protection of barrier of entry - You have to take just a bit of time memorizing the mudras or getting used to cast times actually mattering. Which is still enough to drive away the shitters before they stick around long enough to start complaining the job needs to be reworked to cater to their mediocrity.

Which they don't need to be because, you can play literally any job in the game half-assed and do better than the average player. There's no reason to remove identity from the classes just for the illusion of making the top level play more accessible.

[ForsakenRoe]

Which is still enough to drive away the shitters before they stick around long enough to start complaining the job needs to be reworked to cater to their mediocrity.

People have been asking for an option to remove the Mudras and just have 'press button for Suiton' for years. Citing 'accessibility' or 'its hard to remember the combinations' or whatever. With it being how it works in PVP to an extent (press Three Mudra, then press whatever Ninjutsu you want) I'd expect that particular crowd to get even louder

[Kissune]

People have been asking for an option to remove the Mudras and just have 'press button for Suiton' for years. Citing 'accessibility' or 'its hard to remember the combinations' or whatever. With it being how it works in PVP to an extent (press Three Mudra, then press whatever Ninjutsu you want) I'd expect that particular crowd to get even louder

And it's funny. I play PvP and I wanted to play ninja bc I thought their ult was cool (and broken as shit, but I was bad at the pvp at the start of EW too). But I looked at their kit and saw how ninjutsu worked and was like 'thats way too complicated, i don't want to remember all that'.

And instead of bitching and whining on the forums or reddit about how the job was just too hard and complicated and a pvp casual like me couldn't get into it despite how cool it was... I just played something else. Like a normal person. This game would be infinitely better if people would just not play shit that didn't appeal to them instead of demanding it be catered to them. Bc when they listen to feedback like that you just get a bunch of piss easy, stupidly streamlined jobs with no substance or depth beyond surface level aesthetics. If you wanna play a job for the aesthetics? Fine! But don't expect to be optimal on it without the effort. Don't want to put in the effort to be optimal? Then deal with not being optimal which is irrelevant in 90% of content anyways!

Oh but they wanna have their chosen aesthetic, and feel optimal, AND put zero effort in? Ah, of course. That's where the ideal is, apparently.

[Aravell]

And it's funny. I play PvP and I wanted to play ninja bc I thought their ult was cool (and broken as shit, but I was bad at the pvp at the start of EW too). But I looked at their kit and saw how ninjutsu worked and was like 'thats way too complicated, i don't want to remember all that'.

And instead of bitching and whining on the forums or reddit about how the job was just too hard and complicated and a pvp casual like me couldn't get into it despite how cool it was... I just played something else. Like a normal person. This game would be infinitely better if people would just not play shit that didn't appeal to them instead of demanding it be catered to them. Bc when they listen to feedback like that you just get a bunch of piss easy, stupidly streamlined jobs with no substance or depth beyond surface level aesthetics. If you wanna play a job for the aesthetics? Fine! But don't expect to be optimal on it without the effort. Don't want to put in the effort to be optimal? Then deal with not being optimal which is irrelevant in 90% of content anyways!

Oh but they wanna have their chosen aesthetic, and feel optimal, AND put zero effort in? Ah, of course. That's where the ideal is, apparently.

But hey, you know what? Since we're both no longer playing AST in DT, maybe they'll start listening to us now.

[Kissune]

But hey, you know what? Since we're both no longer playing AST in DT, maybe they'll start listening to us now.

Here's hoping! 8.0 Looking better every day.