Combat system is beyond saving.

[YuuYun]

I really do hope they do bring more depth to the jobs for sure and this should not affect the casuals at all.

I used to be so casual back in HW and ARR that I didnt even know about rotations etc even about normal 8 man raids. And tanks stance never bothered me even once.

So from what I see the only players that complain about jobs having any depth or intricacy are the players doing extreme or maybe even savage raids that cant do great damage, being so insecure of themselves wanting to be on the same level as the veterans without putting any sort of work.

Recently SE have been making these jobs changes for these audience which really affects high end raiding. So much so
, im scared about the BLM change knowing how much the job already struggles in TOP p6 with movement. If they were to add any movement heavy phases to ultimates it will out right make DT BLMs unviable due to not having enough instant casts to handle the mechanics doing very minimal damage not making the damage check for the enrage timer.

I have played many jobs hoping from one to another because of the changes the jobs got that I found distasteful. I would like to stick to one job but with how jobs are being treated now it would be hard to find any jobs that can excite me in the near future.

And I find it very sad to see two of my friends maybe not playing DT because of these so called job changes.

[HighlanderClone]

As a healer, I've been asking for "toys" to play with for 5 years.

And you will continue waiting for "toys" to play with for the rest of the game.

FF14 is not in the business of catering to players with an IQ of higher than 70.

[TBerry]

Heonestly the closest thing to identity is the starter classes and the beginner dungeons. You just freeform it more or less and role skills are viable. Stuns, head-graze, even leg-graze at times, and of course sleep.
But you are expected to change to your job. And it's probably not convenient for the narrative spun here.

[Ramiee]

Heonestly the closest thing to identity is the starter classes and the beginner dungeons. You just freeform it more or less and role skills are viable. Stuns, head-graze, even leg-graze at times, and of course sleep.
But you are expected to change to your job. And it's probably not convenient for the narrative spun here.

Reminds me of the fact Scholar in the earliest dungeons doesn't have Succor and the only aoe regen they have is whispering dawn. That already makes you play it completely differently then how you would play WHM, SGE or AST.

[HighlanderClone]

Heonestly the closest thing to identity is the starter classes and the beginner dungeons. You just freeform it more or less and role skills are viable. Stuns, head-graze, even leg-graze at times, and of course sleep.
But you are expected to change to your job. And it's probably not convenient for the narrative spun here.

ARR raids have more character and job identity than modern FF14 rofl

[KisaiTenshi]

If SE and the game mods allowed people to say what they want I have a feeling the community (and the game) as a whole would look a lot different than it does now.

I think you are just downplaying what you actually said.

I have not seen a GM a single time in this game. Ever. It's likely they reported you for your word choice, not why.

Again, one of the good things about this game is that SE doesn't let it turn into a toxic cess-pool so that new players are welcome. Remember why we're not allowed to skip the MSQ cutscenes? Around late HW/early Stormblood MSQ dungeons was a one hour commitment with a 500 tomes reward. They cut both in half, and also removed half of the ground you had to cover during it. But I remember when people would rudely spam comments to skip the cutscenes to new players so new players were told over and over again to not enjoy the game, to skip the cutscenes, to spoil their experience by watching tutorials, to do things perfectly out the gate or get kicked. That was ARR and HW. That had to change.

People still send messages over cutscenes and it's annoying, but at least we no longer have dungeons in newer content that spend 10 minutes in cutscenes at the beginning.

Why do people think they are entitled to being rude, if someone has a really short fuse, they should not be the one to explain the game mechanic.

[Pip_Chick]

And you will continue waiting for "toys" to play with for the rest of the game.

FF14 is not in the business of catering to players with an IQ of higher than 70.

So what you are saying is... I have to pretend I am just as lobotomized as my Faerie and SE will give me my Dots and possibly an ulobotomised Faerie back?

Better start dragging my knees on the pavement!