Combat system is beyond saving.

[CaptainLagbeard]

They need to reconsider the identity of the jobs and start working from there...

I think a strong start would be getting all the jobs to be more different from each other again... Split the tanks between Physical and Magical, and make fights that focus on different things than just needing mitigation for the occasional magic damage tank buster.

Healers have kind of been completely neglected since Stormblood... And they don't even seem to remember that SCH is a Fairy themed healer by giving it an angel form...

The DPS classes do feel somewhat different, it's almost like the only work being done on gameplay is all spent on the DPS. Not on any of the other roles, or any of the fights. Everything that isn't DPS gameplay is just an afterthought.

[HighlanderClone]

It’s so bizarre to me that a game that lets you change jobs whenever you want continues to eradicate play styles in the effort to make all jobs the same. Do you like positionals? Gone. Do you like DOTs? Gone. Do you like pet management? Limited job only. Do you like RNG? Getting purged with each expansion. Do you like offensive healers? Gone. Do you like aggro management? Gone.

Because FF14 players are like toddlers saying "mom I want that toy" and you must buy that toy for them because they will scream and shout otherwise. And then two days later they get bored of that toy and move back to their other toy.

[xivYuiM]

Opening this post with "Heavensward was the peak of this game" is beyond parody

Thank you for the constructive reply. I will consider it next time I start a thread.

[ty_taurus]

Because FF14 players are like toddlers saying "mom I want that toy" and you must buy that toy for them because they will scream and shout otherwise. And then two days later they get bored of that toy and move back to their other toy.

As a healer, I've been asking for "toys" to play with for 5 years.

[Ramiee]

The pendulum will probably shift, eventually. It's just kinda funny that XIV is going through it's homogeneity phase in the 2020s when most MMOs had this problem in the late 2000s to early 2010s.

[Rekh]

The pendulum will probably shift, eventually. It's just kinda funny that XIV is going through it's homogeneity phase in the 2020s when most MMOs had this problem in the late 2000s to early 2010s.

This. My previous mmo had this homo phase back in 2012 or so. Very unfortunate xiv's doing this in 2024; look forward to modernity in 2028 folks!

[Zadood]

This. My previous mmo had this homo phase back in 2012 or so. Very unfortunate xiv's doing this in 2024; look forward to modernity in 2028 folks!

I m curious, what was your previous MMO, I m asking... for SCIENCES of course!

[Rekh]

I m curious, what was your previous MMO, I m asking... for SCIENCES of course!

Wakfu, a strategy mmorpg; it's similar to FF Tactics but simpler. It's actually a really good mmo now; I'd recommend trying it, even if you tried it in the past.

[ty_taurus]

Wakfu, a strategy mmorpg; it's similar to FF Tactics but simpler. It's actually a really good mmo now; I'd recommend trying it, even if you tried it in the past.

That game was my shit for all of like 3 seconds. Sadly, it never really picked up the way I'd have hoped. I was also basically a toddler back then so a subscription fee was a tough sell on my parents.

I did play it again a long time after a little. It was really dead and mainly a solo game I feel like, but I remember how sad I was at how Unnatural Remedies was changed on the Eniripsa. Back in the open beta, it zombified enemies, causing your healing to hurt them, so you could slap an AOE heal on your melee teammates to heal them and hurt enemies at the same time. Later, it just caused your heals to become damage spells and your damage spells to become heals, which mainly changed things slightly based on the effects of your spells. Like your damage spells would mark enemies with effects that would do certain things, and those mark effects changed when those spells became heals.

[Awful]

Yas please, I loved Frost mage in WoW as it was proc heaven, Builder spender classes just feel 1 dimensional.

Yes give more procs! Imagine if XIV had trinkets like WoW it'd be something like:
random main stat+ Vit, Crit/Det, Chance on hit to deal 250 potency of unaspected damage and places debuff on them stacking to 3 times, on 3rd stack explodes and does X dmg.

The stats in XIV are so boring combined with no procs on a lot of jobs it truly is a procless life.