Square obviously not listening to feedback

[Supersnow845]

Dear lord can you please say this louder for those in the back. If everyone read and undestood this one post the forums here would be a better place for discussion and a large amount of the hostility would be gone.

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I reached the post limit but I just want to posit this idea out there. They told you that they removed kaiten because of action bloat. Thats the reason they gave. That tells me that they made a change, gave you a reason for it, and is it not possible that you just aren't happy with their answer? Saying action bloat is very transparent. What wouldn't be transparent is if they said nothing and just removed it like they do in other games. I'd also add that even with all the feedback in the world they aren't guaranteed to do what you want. Knowing the level of care they put into this game, do you truely believe that they did not try a version of EW sam with kaiten still before coming to this decision? I guarantee you they did. But at the end of the day they made a call, for the reason they gave, and if they believe the game is better of with that call then thats their decision to make. It really isn't about a lack of transparency. But again, just something to think about.

EW SAM launched with Kaiten so I’m not sure where you are getting that point from

My point is “if they were happy with the change and the stated reason means they are transparent” (paraphrasing you) why did they ask for feedback and act as if our feedback meant anything. If they were rock solid on the change and were not going to relent then “please give us feedback” just reads as “kick rocks”

[Arkdra]

EW SAM launched with Kaiten so I’m not sure where you are getting that point from

My point is “if they were happy with the change and the stated reason means they are transparent” (paraphrasing you) why did they ask for feedback and act as if our feedback meant anything. If they were rock solid on the change and were not going to relent then “please give us feedback” just reads as “kick rocks”

It's inexplicable to be honest. The most likely answer is that the blowback wasn't enough to get them to change their mind. Like go back and look through some of that bring back kaiten thread. Yeah, it's a big thread. If the first 10 pages are anything to go by then more than half of that thread is the same 20ish posters (I just eyeballed it I did not do a hard count). 30% of it might be just celesticerr and ryuzooo lol.

But then, if the blowback wasn't enough to reverse the kaiten decision, why did they back off the 6.2 adjustments for drg and specifically cite the kaiten blowback as the reason? The blowback was not enough to get kaiten back but it was enough to get them to start adding intent notes on the job actions pages every time they make a change? Weird reaction on the whole, even if it all worked out to my benefit.

[Sjol]

It's inexplicable to be honest. The most likely answer is that the blowback wasn't enough to get them to change their mind. Like go back and look through some of that bring back kaiten thread. Yeah, it's a big thread. If the first 10 pages are anything to go by then more than half of that thread is the same 20ish posters (I just eyeballed it I did not do a hard count). 30% of it might be just celesticerr and ryuzooo lol.

But then, if the blowback wasn't enough to reverse the kaiten decision, why did they back off the 6.2 adjustments for drg and specifically cite the kaiten blowback as the reason? The blowback was not enough to get kaiten back but it was enough to get them to start adding intent notes on the job actions pages every time they make a change? Weird reaction on the whole, even if it all worked out to my benefit.

I think they realized that smaller adjustments wouldn't be well-recieved and instead decided that larger adjustments should be taken together. I'm personally a fan of kaiten's removal. I don't speak up much about it, because A) I got what I wanted and B) merely mentioning it would invite argument.