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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    You don't use High Flare for damage. Only reason to use it, if you are in ice phase want swap to fire like fire 3. You can also completely skip whole skill and use transpose and get full fire stacks with flare.
    Yeah... from the looks of it Transpose -> Flare Flare -> Flare Star-> Foul/HT2 -> Transpose -> Freeze -> HT2/Foul -> Transpose -> repeat seems unironically worth it. Potentially you use (High) Fire II for swapping for AF3, but otherwise...

    ...man, we have been at this exact point with Shadowbringers where Fire 2 + Blizzard 2 were absolute garbage. Then we had Endwalker's "Enhanced Flare" and increase in potencies for the AOE skills and it actually was usable. Now we are back to spamming Flares again. Am I missing something or am I really gonna go back to basically nearly never using either spell again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Yeah... from the looks of it Transpose -> Flare Flare -> Flare Star-> Foul/HT2 -> Transpose -> Freeze -> HT2/Foul -> Transpose -> repeat seems unironically worth it. Potentially you use (High) Fire II for swapping for AF3, but otherwise...

    ...man, we have been at this exact point with Shadowbringers where Fire 2 + Blizzard 2 were absolute garbage. Then we had Endwalker's "Enhanced Flare" and increase in potencies for the AOE skills and it actually was usable. Now we are back to spamming Flares again. Am I missing something or am I really gonna go back to basically nearly never using either spell again?
    Well my guess is that, because of Flare star, aoe cycle would become too long, if high flare would still be in rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Well my guess is that, because of Flare star, aoe cycle would become too long, if high flare would still be in rotation.
    A remedy they could do for that would be slashing a second off Flare (4s -> 3s) on cast time and also normalizing Fire II, Blizzard II, High Fire II and High Blizzard II to have 2.5s cast rather than 3s.

    Like, great, nice job for giving us a new fire tool at Lv100, what about Lv50-99? Was it really necessary to reduce the potencies again? Why do we have to do this song and dance of nerfing BLM on expansion launch nearly every time to make sure another caster doesn't feel bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    A remedy they could do for that would be slashing a second off Flare (4s -> 3s) on cast time and also normalizing Fire II, Blizzard II, High Fire II and High Blizzard II to have 2.5s cast rather than 3s.

    Like, great, nice job for giving us a new fire tool at Lv100, what about Lv50-99? Was it really necessary to reduce the potencies again? Why do we have to do this song and dance of nerfing BLM on expansion launch nearly every time to make sure another caster doesn't feel bad?
    In low lvl aoe thunder dot potency is doubled and we have manafont at lvl 30, not sure how much that compensate it. Transpose can also be utilized by multi dotting targets while pulling. You can spam thunder every 5 second with transpose.
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