Thread: Please reconsider 7.0 BLM changes

The lore stated, that its a phase where you gives your aether rest and time to recover. It never stated, that you are not allowed to use spells in that time (that is, what whe are doing allready). At the same time did she practicly even learned ice spells to enter that state. Whe even strenght that phase, by using ice spells (ice soul) and later creating ice shards, to support the fire phase. So, its looks to be connected from the start.
In addition is it simply a game mechanic, to give Ice attacks more use.

Mao wouldn't mind if non-standard still allowed buts changes nots gonna affect Mao too much. Mao mostly standards already because Mao casts Blizzard IV in Mao rotation. Mao likes watch sparkly ice. SHINY!

If non standard elimination was the target they could have just made the ice phase better.
Instead of yet another fire spell charged by fire attacks why not make it so that ice spells charge it instead?
If the damage was high enough non standard would then no longer exist. That would have made both sides happy
As a blm main since heavensward I think that would be the best way. Not more fire spells and simplifications but enrichment of what we have.

I only use nonstandard from time to time. I wouldn’t really miss it but I think there would have been better ways to change everything.

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

No it’s a combo of 2 things

1) to get this new skill you must press 6 fire 4’s, this means “short lines” (ie rotation loops where you don’t get umbral hearts so you don’t have enough mana to cast 6 fire 4’s) are pretty much gone since you basically need to do 6 fire 4’s now
2) you now need to cast a spell (presumably an ice spell) in umbral ice to get mana back rather than just being in umbral ice. Most of the “non standard” play in BLM involves transposing into umbral ice then casting large gain spells like thunder 3 or xenoglossy to skip casting weak ice spells like blizzard 3 and blizzard 4

The changes in DT are removing both of these situations

I mean I get this, I understand the rotational "streamlining" is disappointing. I am just wondering if anyone is finding the flavor/aesthetic disappointingly unoriginal/innovative as well?

I feel for you BLM mains. Just like AST, our jobs which have optimization and mid-maxing potential have been taken away and simplified, all so the shitters of this game can feel better they aren't optimal because they couldn't be bothered to put the effort in.

Originally Posted by Zaytex

I feel for you BLM mains. Just like AST, our jobs which have optimization and mid-maxing potential have been taken away and simplified, all so the shitters of this game can feel better they aren't optimal because they couldn't be bothered to put the effort in.

Imagine liking both Ast and BLM. (Although i play standard mostly)

Oh yeah and liking old PLD....

Fun times to play ff14!

I don't see how non-standard lines is even a problem when no one is required to use it and most probably don't know it exists, and if they do they aren't using it anyway [me included]. Taking away that micro-optimization only hurts the players who enjoy that sort of thing, it doesn't hurt the ones who will never interact with it nor care to.

I lowkey don't understand the intrinsic need of needing to make optional optimisation that barely pulls ahead in most scenarios anyways (especially for the effort it takes) be essentially deleted just so casuals "don't feel bad for not performing the ideal non-standard lines according to meta analyst dee-pee-ess".

All we do is lower ceilings and keep floors the same. Sorry, but this benefits noone except those with high levels of performance paranoia - who will still probably not perform standard line play to the maximum anyhow.

And honestly, saying "Summoner is great, look how many people play it, it is a success" is such a meme that I only believed CBU3/Yoshida might say. It's a job you can train a hamster to perform, is it really such a good metric to base job success on if people simply play it due to being easier than every other Caster (by basically not being a caster) and still somehow doing more damage than Red Mage (because clearly that's fair).

It's okay to have easy jobs, but can we have the ones with higher ceilings please stay the ones with higher ceilings? We don't need to lobotomize every job for people with performance anxiety.

I, honestly, don't think the intention was the kill non-standard lines. I just don't think they took it into account when doing the level 100 design.