Thread: Please reconsider 7.0 BLM changes

I like how these people who don't even play the job crawl out of the woodwork to celebrate the destruction of its depth (that gave you, at most, a 2% damage increase on average).
Like, no one can have fun.
They celebrate the misery of others not realizing that if all jobs devolve to healer levels of spamming 11111, then there will never be any alternative.
Instead of this petty display, maybe people should band and point at the few good jobs with a skill ceiling the game has left and demand all others to be elevated (or, in many cases, re-elevated) to that standard.

But I guess we're all crabs in this bucket that is modern XIV, dragging each other down so we all sink into the poverty that is current XIV gameplay.

Cyth, I subscribe all that you've said, even if I know it will fall on deaf ears.

Originally Posted by Galvuu

I like how these people who don't even play the job crawl out of the woodwork to celebrate the destruction of its depth (that gave you, at most, a 2% damage increase on average).
Like, no one can have fun.
They celebrate the misery of others not realizing that if all jobs devolve to healer levels of spamming 11111, then there will never be any alternative.
Instead of this petty display, maybe people should band and point at the few good jobs with a skill ceiling the game has left and demand all others to be elevated (or, in many cases, re-elevated) to that standard.

But I guess we're all crabs in this bucket that is modern XIV, dragging each other down so we all sink into the poverty that is current XIV gameplay.

Oh, I'm crawling out of the woodwork because I am lauding the destruction of its supposed depth. And I actually have played the class literally ever in EW. Sure, I'm not as good as you are because BLM is a cancer of bad class design and playing it is less appealing an idea than getting teeth pulled. I want a class I used to love to be fun again, and the destruction of nonstandard is the first step towards fixing this godawful mess of a class.

Originally Posted by Taranok

Oh, I'm crawling out of the woodwork because I am lauding the destruction of its supposed depth. And I actually have played the class literally ever in EW. Sure, I'm not as good as you are because BLM is a cancer of bad class design and playing it is less appealing an idea than getting teeth pulled. I want a class I used to love to be fun again, and the destruction of nonstandard is the first step towards fixing this godawful mess of a class.

By your own admission, BLM has worked fundamentally the same and has had a every iteration be good, yet you want it to revert to something you "loved"?

(Nonstandard has been a thing since at least 5.0 by the way, i.e. 4+ years).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you still haven't stated why you think non-standard is bad and should be removed? You seem to just be talking around the same nebulous points of "it generally goes against what SE want".

Also citation is certainly needed for you to claim "nobody played BLM" at the start of the expansion.

Good or bad, we can only say Non-standard gameplay is not intended by SE. It is obvious that most of the DT changes are targeted towards removing Non-standard gameplay.

Originally Posted by Ayden

Good or bad, we can only say Non-standard gameplay is not intended by SE. It is obvious that most of the DT changes are targeted towards removing Non-standard gameplay.

Please point me to where SE have specifically stated they are even aware of non-standard gameplay, let alone against it

Originally Posted by Cyth_

Please point me to where SE have specifically stated they are even aware of non-standard gameplay, let alone against it

Landing ice spells to restore MP is one. Another one would be the new fire gauge which requires people to do 6 Fire IV (presumably) for a new finisher. These 2 changes alone are enough to push people to do the standard rotation. You cant skip the ice phase and you must do the full fire sequence.

Originally Posted by Ayden

Landing ice spells to restore MP is one. Another one would be the new fire gauge which requires people to do 6 Fire IV (presumably) for a new finisher. These 2 changes alone are enough to push people to do the standard rotation. You cant skip the ice phase and you must do the full fire sequence.

This is speculation on their intent, not confirmation.

Originally Posted by Cyth_

This is speculation on their intent, not confirmation.

Please see this Famitsu article from the media tour: https://www.famitsu.com/news/202110/13236998.html

In the section about Paradox, it specifically says that they extended the duration of procs so you can use them to "Trance" (transpose) and return with Fire Proc. They are definitely aware people do this.

I'm just disappointed in how they are approaching this. The best of both worlds is to just make any GCD in UI give you mana. Hopefully something like that ends up shipping on the release build.