Thread: Please reconsider 7.0 BLM changes

Originally Posted by Tint

BLM changes are not thought through at all.

Flare Star is the biggest offender of course. If you have your AF phase to cut short you will lose Flare Star entirely. And it also means Despair loses it's functionality as an disengage tool. Also Despair already was the finisher move for the fire phase - what purpose does Flare Star really have in BLMs kit?

But even worse: When there is too much movement and you have to cast an additional Fire 1 to keep your AF timer running you will lose Flare Star as well.

BLM is too punishing for messing your rotation up. And with Flare Star they just added another layer, while basically every other job in the game got this sort of punishments removed.


Then there is the 3rd Polyglot stack. Why do we have it now? Having a second was nice so you didn't risk to overwrite it. But a third?

Are we supposed to keep them and offload them all at the same time during burst windows? Together with a fourth one we get with Amplifier? Maybe a fifth shortly after because the timer is running over again?

BLM does not have the room to cast that many Xenos. We risk to lose our AF / UI timer. Especially with the removal of ice Paradox. Ice Paradox was a nice way to extend the timer during UI and getting the room get rid of additional Polyglot stacks.

Adding Flare Star also made it harder to get rid of them after casting Despair.


BLM is basically the only job in the game which got harder to play. Was that really the intention?


Plus when I was questing / doing daylie hunts / whatever in the open world I had to waste 3 GCDs after every fight to get my mana back up before I could get on my mount or start the next fight with low damaging Blizzard 3 > Blizzard 4 instead of just killing the overworld trash with fire.


BLM is clunky, too punishing, not thought through at all and I didn't even mentioned the AoE rotation or wonky AF timers because of instant Paradox...

Mao agrees. Is why Mao suggestings Flare Star should be castables from Polyglots rather than Fire IVs. In Mao opinion, hierarchy should be [Maintain Phases]---->[Gets Polyglots]---->[Use Polyglots to cast Flare Star]. Power of Flare Star would depend on how many Polyglots get consumed. If two Polyglots consumed, then gets boom whats 250% of Xenoglossy. If three Polyglots consumed, then gets boom whats 400% of Xenoglossy. By doings Flare Star this way, is keep EW flexibility while adding new big boom to arsenal.

I'd just like to drop into this thread after the 7.01 patch to say to Square, thank you for fixing Black Mage's issues at low levels.

Next patch, please consider fixing some of Black Mage's issues at high levels as well.

Originally Posted by Owyn_Addens

I'd just like to drop into this thread after the 7.01 patch to say to Square, thank you for fixing Black Mage's issues at low levels.

Next patch, please consider fixing some of Black Mage's issues at high levels as well.

They just have to sort out the janky clunky BLM state otherwise BLM will not be in a lot of savage clear runs at all as everyone who would bring a caster would bring PCT as its more powerful and way easier to play than BLM and brings raid utilities and buffs even if it doesnt have a Raise.

But from what I fear, BLMs will only get potency changes and nothing to alliviate all the other big concerns when it comes to how tight AF phase is, maintaining Enochian Timer, keeping Thunder up as well as getting those 6 Flarestar stacks as atm Flarestar is sooo easy to miss out on :/

Originally Posted by Altera

They just have to sort out the janky clunky BLM state otherwise BLM will not be in a lot of savage clear runs at all as everyone who would bring a caster would bring PCT as its more powerful and way easier to play than BLM and brings raid utilities and buffs even if it doesnt have a Raise.

But from what I fear, BLMs will only get potency changes and nothing to alliviate all the other big concerns when it comes to how tight AF phase is, maintaining Enochian Timer, keeping Thunder up as well as getting those 6 Flarestar stacks as atm Flarestar is sooo easy to miss out on :/

Beside monk which required litterally a full rework, today's patch was only adressing some gameplay issues, we have no idea of the state of BLM in 7.05.

Not saying this is what I'm expecting, but they could very well overbuff BLM and make it solide #1 in 2 weeks.
Any discussion on DPS atm is really pointless.

summoner mains: "It's a bit bare bones right now. I'm eager to see where it'll go in the next expansion"
black mage mains: "It's perfect. Don't mess with it unless you really know what you're doing"
Square job designer: "wait, which one was which again?"

Seriously, I'd love to only have an upgrade to Despair that gives it more potency, and changes the animation, and no other changes.

Originally Posted by GartredZW

Seriously, I'd love to only have an upgrade to Despair that gives it more potency, and changes the animation, and no other changes.

like most other jobs that get to press their finishers/buffs an extra time now, but for blm they thought lets make it extra punishing when you don't get all 6 f4 in