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  1. 06-30-2024 06:43 AM
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    nvm I'll have to test level 100 blm myself first

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    Realfoxy's Avatar
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    Claudie Haignere
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Single target flare is really bad damage. The Balance theorycrafters did the math it's not worth using outside of extremely niche scenarios.
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    Geno Reaper
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Apparently "non-standard" just means any ability to adjust your rotation around movement and downtime too, as far as the devs are concerned.
    Meanwhile picto was handed everything blm lost. Here's 3+ 1000+ potency attacks that you can prep, hold on to and cast whenever with no drop off, timers. Or penalty. That's the part that bothers me. We wouldn't be doing more damage than them right now, yet they got the flexibility, prepping at any point as instant out of combat, a better artherial manipulation. A party buff, AND bigger damage. We're never getting an invite with that on the table. It's like when we got ignored for summoner and rdm because we didn't get raise.
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If PCT ends up doing more dps than BLM, something will need to be corrected immediately whether it's nerfing PCT or buffing BLM. It is simply nonsensical to introduce a new caster that does best DPS with a raid buff.

    And it's not Job jealousy, it's just common sense.

    That said, I haven't seen data on rDPS/aDPS yet. Just secondhand mumbling from theorycrafting.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 07-01-2024 at 03:30 PM.

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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    If PCT ends up doing more dps than BLM
    Pretty sure PCT out damages everything except RPR and maybe SAM. Still waiting on final numbers/funny spreadsheet site update, but this might be the worst .0 balance since ARR.
    (I play Picto, it's bonkers)
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    Pretty sure PCT out damages everything except RPR and maybe SAM. Still waiting on final numbers/funny spreadsheet site update, but this might be the worst .0 balance since ARR.
    (I play Picto, it's bonkers)
    It seems like every .0 patch that devs have to be reminded that damage is the only reason to play BLM. It does not have party utility or mitigation worth considering compared to other jobs, so being a selfish dps is literally all it is. BLM was buffed during EW, if I am not mistaken, which put it more along the lines of SAM aDPS. If PCT is doing more aDPS than BLM that just doesn't make any sense.

    And I especially expect it given all the other changes that need to be tolerated with the rotation rework no one asked for.

    Between the new expansion quality and the state of jobs, I'm not sure if this game has a budget problem or what the deal is. It seems like several aspects of the game are on auto pilot for a major new launch. It isn't just BLM that is scuffed, and many others have been long since wrecked with no feedback acknowledged.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 07-02-2024 at 11:21 AM.

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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It seems like every .0 patch that devs have to be reminded that damage is the only reason to play BLM. It does not have party utility or mitigation worth considering compared to other jobs, so being a selfish dps is literally all it is. BLM was buffed during EW, if I am not mistaken, which put it more along the lines of SAM aDPS. If PCT is doing more aDPS than BLM that just doesn't make any sense.

    And I especially expect it given all the other changes that need to be tolerated with the rotation rework no one asked for.

    Between the new expansion quality and the state of jobs, I'm not sure if this game has a budget problem or what the deal is. It seems like several aspects of the game are on auto pilot for a major new launch. It isn't just BLM that is scuffed, and many others have been long since wrecked with no feedback acknowledged.
    Is possibles that this just cynical move on part of SE to get more moneys? "Come play DT and become Pictomancer! Can be best DPS character evers (until next flavor comes with next expansion)".
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    Kokola Kola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Is possibles that this just cynical move on part of SE to get more moneys? "Come play DT and become Pictomancer! Can be best DPS character evers (until next flavor comes with next expansion)".
    Don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence.

    There are a lot of things in Dawntrail that feel like they were built in an environment without enough time or resources or both. Flare Star was an intentional choice to restrict BLM and make it seem more accessible, but numbers are almost certainly an oversight that will be fixed with the new balance patch.

    SE gains nothing from having people who already bought the expansion switching from BLM to PCT.
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Mao startings to find BLMs becomings more rigid and less funs. Can BLMs who reached 100 tell Mao if BLMs still fun likes was in EW?
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao startings to find BLMs becomings more rigid and less funs. Can BLMs who reached 100 tell Mao if BLMs still fun likes was in EW?
    The rigidity becomes worse and even more obvious at 100 when you get Flare Star.

    BLM is dead. Long live BLM.
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