Thread: Please reconsider 7.0 BLM changes

Originally Posted by Taranok

I am glad BLM is finally not going to be a special snowflake. The class has been in a quasi-unique state for so long living in a double standard that the players forgot that the devs don't like nonstandard play, and nonstandard has been a serious blight on the game in general. Be it a 2% increase, or 40% (as with SMN in HW.) I also am happy the devs are finally removing server tics. That is literally an ARR mechanic and has needed to be fixed for a decade.

The last thing BLM needs to finish its transition into modern play is to remove the AF/UI timers and, bloat removal, as timers are a relic dating back to, literally, ARR. Bring the paradox mechanic down to level 60 and timers can straight up be removed. Bloat can be dealt with by just streamlining bad aspects of the design.

Good riddance to nonstandard, I won't miss you.

Could you explain why you believe non-standard play is an issue? The main reasons people adopt non-standard play are for mobility and better contribution to raid buffs (which the entire game is built around, and should be seen as a positive!). The damage increase of non-standard play is quite insignificant, and a majority of the damage gain comes from very simple optimisations that hardly deviate from standard play and can be implemented by most players (namely transposing into Astral Fire before consuming a Firestarter-buffed Fire III).

Endwalker has seen a move to increasingly movement heavy encounter design, and it is simply impossible for Black Mages to maintain casting uptime in some of these scenarios, such as the final phase of The Omega Protocol. Resourceful Black Mages have been able to use the tools available to them to alleviate this, otherwise they would be stuck casting Scathe.

This isn't even to mention that full-standard Black Mage is not significantly worse - it is still amongst the most powerful jobs in the game, and by far the most powerful Caster. Standard players can and do perform extremely close to the best non-standard players at all levels of the game.

I dont understand anything of what you say.
1) What depth, flexibility and choices to make?

All what the blm is doing, is spamming fire2/4, until the timer or the mp is to low, to use than paradox/fire1/fire3 or one of the 2 flare spells.
Than switching to ice, use 2-3 ice spells to refresh the marker, set up thunder, maybe use the void spells and than switch back to fire with fire 2/3 to let the enemy burn, again.

I dont see much of flexibility or choices by that. Except, that its possible to make the rotation shorter by switching to the other phase earlier.
This non-standard thing is something, i never understand and who looked to questionable for me. Because it doesnt use the full mechanic of the blm. By ignoring the ice buffs (why should SE care so much about a playstile, who is not intended or used so much?).

2) I sayed it allready in other Post, that whe will probably keep or normal mp reg, like every other class has it. What is changed is, that the ice phase doesnt improve the power of that Regeneration.
Instant, will ice spells probably have the same kind of reg, like the paladin or some other classes have (recover x% of your mp).
The Trailer failed to show us a ice phase (i thinked the whole time, whe had one, but the blm was the whole time in fire phase), but i can not image it, that it is longer as before.

3) What is bad at instant Paradox? How can that be bad for slower blms?
The optimal number of fire4 are 4 shots, before you use paradox. But, that was allways very dangerous with the timer. Because paradox needed a cast time to. It ended up very often, that it missed 1-2 seconds, to be casted. And the time was lost. At last by me and a other person i knowed. I even readed sometimes, that 3x fire4 and than paradox is better, to not come dangerous near with the timer (is at last the variation, im using).

Now is it instant spell. That make it much better with the 4 times fire 4 shooting.
Look in the Clip. It was literally used at the last second.
I can not understand and see, how a instant spell is bad for it. You even keep your Dual casting and triple castings for fire4, and than later, double flare+explosion Ball.
Even the first void spell is a casting spell at lvl 70, and become instant spell in shb, what make it better (yesterday noticed again, that i can not uptain a rotation in the 70er area, that one casting spell is pushing me out of the rotation of all other lvl areas, that i dislike the blm the most than).

Edit:
Its even possible, that Paradox is not instantly. Switch cast has now a shorter CD. Its possible, that it was used for paradox. What gives the image of a instantly spell. And was later used for Despair to (i think).

4) Gauge:
Whe dont know anything about the gauge. So, whe should simply waiting, instant of drawing the devil on the wall (that is the job for pictomancer^^).
Even if the marker are filled only with fire4/flare, should there be not a big problem. Because it is allready mostly what whe use. But, it should be very likely, that it will be even filled with fire2 (for aoe rotation, and if not, is flare there to fill that role) and maybe with fire4.
I only hope, that they will use later this gauge for more stuff (some spells, who need lesser numbers of the shards). The same with 3 void spell slots (i wanted the option, that the filler spell is blocked, if you have allready 2 of them, a third is a compromise, but feels like to many of them now).

5) with Thunder did whe need to see, how it it. In the benchmark saw whe a casting time. Its possible, that it was allready procced with sharpshoot for this Show. Otherwise have whe that now open for fire1/paradox (i allways keeped it for thunder, and doesnt know, how to use the second stack of the skill^^).
Maybe it is even the case, that it is Instant spell. But, keep its procc mechanic, that it has a stronger form to. Than will there be practicly no change at all.

Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty

So basically homogenize BLM to hell because you are bitter there's a single job that has been somewhat saved from that so far? OK, I'm sure following this attitude is great for the entire game's health, but it looks like you're getting your wish of making everything as bland as possible because the neighbor job might get jealous otherwise.

Just want to confirm who you are responding to here?