Thread: Please reconsider 7.0 BLM changes

Originally Posted by Kazaarr

Wow the amount of toxic peole that dont understand how the job works but are just happy the blackmages are upset is nuts. In the jp forums this is a lot more nuanced. No wonder they dont care about the english forums.

English forums primarily has a "screw you got mine" mentality. It comes full circle when the toxic people's job classes are next on the chopping block.

Originally Posted by SoleilBigMountain

It is psychotic too me how many people in this thread are just happy this is happening because they didn't play BLM or had some kind of complex against them for being off in their own little corner being happy. Like "I'm happy you're getting screwed over because your job was scary and you can't say Yoshi P has got you anymore" is nuts. Never mind the fact these changes are worse for all levels of BLM so it doesn't actually help anyone lol.

The envy over some videogame skills is baffling and I'm saying this as a perfectly average BLM who sometimes doesn't really do the perfect rotation (let alone non standard) but can still output some decent damage.

Well, this has been enlightening so far.

Off the top of my head and without doing any math, I'm guessing that the new opener goes like the current one, where you use F3, Thunder (which is now free and instant, so you can comfortably slam down leylines and triplecast or something right here), as many F4s followed by a Despair as you can, and then Manafont. However, since Manafont is vastly stronger now, you then proceed into a completely normal astral cycle, making sure to drop your Xeno and possibly refresh Thunder before raid buffs run out.

It's possible that we use only Swift and a single Triple to start so we have another Triple ready to go Fire IV-Despair-Flare Star at the end of the post-Manafont astral phase.

Originally Posted by Keichi

A other topic.

What do you guy think, how viable a fire start would be now?

I tested it and noticed, that whe dont have enough mp, to use 6x f4, when whe start the fight with fire3. The mp is only enough for 5x fire 4.
You could use 4 times fire 4 and than flare, to reach the points, without the use of manafront (that whe shouldnt use it at that point).
And even with flare, could it be to close, to use 4x fire 4 with the timer (i have 1866 spell speed and come allways at the last second with the flare cast, after i used 4x f4).

Do you guys think, that a ice starter would be now the better start. Or, that fire would work well to, with maybe 4x fire 4 and than flare (it would be 1 shard to much, but it feels that the extra fire4 would help the dmg output a little).

With flare is your timer back to max, and would give you enough time to use flare star. And after that can whe use mana front to use the propper rotation with paradox and so one.

Flare gives no points for Flare Star. It's literally only Fire 4.

Originally Posted by wildvenonat

Flare gives no points for Flare Star. It's literally only Fire 4.

Flare actually does give Astral Soul. Think it will give 3 stacks. So probably double Flare and then Flare Star for AoE.

To answer the question above though Paradox and Firestarter will primarily be used to reset the timer so you don't lose your Astral Soul Stacks.

Probably gonna be something like B3 > B4 > F3 > F4x3 > Paradox > F4x3 > Despair > Flare Star > Repeat

I largely disagree. I understand that Non-Standard is important to a select few players but I think these changes to Black Mage will benefit many players who like the idea of playing Black Mage but feel alienated by how complex it can seem / feel to play. The changes make the rotation clearer and more fun for more players.

Originally Posted by StrangeIove

I largely disagree. I understand that Non-Standard is important to a select few players but I think these changes to Black Mage will benefit many players who like the idea of playing Black Mage but feel alienated by how complex it can seem / feel to play. The changes make the rotation clearer and more fun for more players.

After 2 weeks after launch BLM will be optimized and those that miss the old stuff will have to suck it up or play different job.