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    Theox's Avatar
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    Theodore Xeon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecia View Post
    Is this your point then? How exactly is Black Mage the gatekeeper here?
    BLM being the only other job not completely gutted yet? Hmm... Let me think...
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    O'ssu Mecia
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    Twintania
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    BLM being the only other job not completely gutted yet? Hmm... Let me think...
    So now that BLM is getting dumbed down, suddenly a thousand voices arise from their slumber to lament current job design as if that wasnt happening already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecia View Post
    So now that BLM is getting dumbed down, suddenly a thousand voices arise from their slumber to lament current job design as if that wasnt happening already?
    Of course not, but it will definately force some people to look at a bigger picture. Also please stop villainizing me, you're stuck with new BLM regardless of my opinion on job design, so like the other person said to me: "go bark up a different tree". I promise you - me or my attitude is not the problem here.
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    "I want your fun to be ruined, out of bitterness and spite... wait why are you vilifying me????"
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    Anastasia Althea
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I think it's crazy that many wish for Black Mage's depth to be filled with sand, because other jobs' depth has been removed, rather than demanding for the depth of those jobs to be brought back. I don't get exactly how nonstandard is an issue. At most you dealt 3% more damage, but the main use was to keep uptime.
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    From the digest released today,

    "MP will be no longer be recovered based on server ticks and will instead recover upon landing ice-aspected spells. The rotation will be easier to understand, and you may want to keep an eye out for new aspects to optimize compared to before. The job action trailer also revealed a new ability to reposition your ley lines once per cast."

    They think there is still things to optimize but it does confirm you must indeed land ice spells so that's nice to know.
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    Darthgama Nemi
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    im glad its no longer server ticks and now ice spells. ive been on hold for waiting for server ticks many times.
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Let's be real, others play SMN not because they like the job... it's either: they can stay half awake playing or it shares gear with BLM and when they've figured the fight, they'd switch and never look back.
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Let's be real, others play SMN not because they like the job... it's either: they can stay half awake playing or it shares gear with BLM and when they've figured the fight, they'd switch and never look back.
    I've also seen "sorry, not my job, but I had to fill" a couple times from SMN joining PF.

    It's actually kind of odd how much damage spread you see on the low end for SMN, considering there's nothing mechanically that explains such discrepancy in skill level. I'd suspect healers who don't main the job/normally play DPS at all, but find it the most convenient one to jump into in a pinch, because it comes bundled when you level healers first. And its rotation being closest to healers'.
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 06-01-2024 at 12:01 AM.

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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Maybe, Blizzard 4 restores 100% of your MP. Maybe Paradox does the same (it acts as Fire in AF, so it would stand to reason it would act as Blizzard in UI. There is a caveat that Blizzard might not restore 100% MP though, though no reason Paradox couldn't).

    From my limited looking at alternate BLM lines, the majority, if not all have Paradox under UI. If it did restore 100% of your MP, nothing would change and, if I read things right, they tended to have a filler GCD for the MP ticks anyway. By allowing full MP on one cast, it might even add more flexibility.
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