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    Sugar And'spice
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    New dawntrial job changes are underwhelming and im not excited

    little edit here - i made a strawpoll and id like very much if you guys could vote on it your feedback about this pll. the poll will always be visable so the devs can see what the feedback is
    https://strawpoll.com/61gDmWebzZw

    what we needed wasn't another skill on top of every other skill to do more damage. what we needed was a job design overhaul and rework of job identity. this has not only been lost so far, but in dt will be even further lost as healers homogenise even more. whm becomes a sage with wings, sch now has enshroud and every finisher just gets a new finisher.

    its to late now for DT.. this is what we have and it wont be changed in time. so we can only hope 8.0 will make the notable changes the game needs.

    talking mainly about the removal of dps checks on bosses.
    lets talk about why those dps checks are an issue
    they limit the amount of playstyles you can run with because everything needs to be about damage.
    this creates meta damage builds that eliminate all creative pathing from jobs forcing your rotation to make you feel like a mindless zombie in pve just hitting the same buttons over and over. the players are sick of this, and the game feels like your in a half asleep trance not really playing just.. doing it.

    jobs should perhaps go down skill tree paths, allowing people to customize HOW we play the job. this is something i like in wow (i dont play it but i was my bf build specs on it) obv i dont want to build healer tanks, but why not be able to build tanks that can mitigate more damage, do more damage, or heal party members. if you remove the dps checks from fights, then people will be able to make there job without fear of being penalized.

    perhaps adding variables to fights, like for example this week the boss does increased aoe damage, or this week healing potency is reduced. these are just raw ideas. but doing this could already allow for some customization of your jobs. it saddens me that this company is made up of experienced game designers who cannot program a good combat system.. maybe 3.0 really WAS better
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 05-17-2024 at 03:12 AM.
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Company that historically does not listen to player feedback once again does not listen to player feedback, players shocked by this turn of events
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Company that historically does not listen to player feedback once again does not listen to player feedback, players shocked by this turn of events
    I mean, they do listen to feedback. But anything that isn't battle or job related. It's as, if they're just ignoring any feedback about healers in the past 4 years.
    Meanwhile, criticizing the benchmark and character creator is enough to rework the whole thing.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 05-18-2024 at 12:36 AM.

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    Mnk looks amazing what are you talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Mnk looks amazing what are you talking about.
    i feel like this is sarcasm, i like the changes to monk personally but the overall job design on it still isnt my thing. but yes im defiantly excited for it. the problem is monk will just allways be, this kinda monk. in this style of combat, u want to be a buff monk with less dps? no. ur a guy using gokus dragon fist on a wooden dummy and ur gona like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    I'm personally more excited for DT job updates than I was for EW. I feel like there is plenty I want to try on release! BLM, MNK, RPR, SCH, AST, PLD, GNB mainly and the rest later as time goes.
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    Viper would look cool if you could see what was going on


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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    i feel like this is sarcasm, i like the changes to monk personally but the overall job design on it still isnt my thing. but yes im defiantly excited for it. the problem is monk will just allways be, this kinda monk. in this style of combat, u want to be a buff monk with less dps? no. ur a guy using gokus dragon fist on a wooden dummy and ur gona like it



    That's the case for every job. We don't have spec trees and thank the gods for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That's the case for every job. We don't have spec trees and thank the gods for that.
    yea but why, saying its bad and not saying why isnt exactly helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Company that historically does not listen to player feedback once again does not listen to player feedback, players shocked by this turn of events
    They Did listen TO MUCH on other Fronts. Take PvP for example. The people who do not even play pvp complained it is to hard back in the Day and now we have a shallow 5 skill spam and run mode. If you do not die from Chain Vacuum Cleaner + Dragoon Combos, you die from boredom.
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