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    Raikai's Avatar
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    So, the button merging feature... did I get this right?

    It was kind of vague to me:

    The action merging QoL feature, is that just for shifting actions we have already (e.g. Earthly Star) or that's gonna be a feature for the 1-2-3 filler combos that don't have the need to branch?

    I thought the former, but then I saw Pictomancer play and they have a cast 1-2-3 combo using the same button.
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    both and more
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    both and more
    Translation clarified on Twitter, it will not turn 1-2-3 into one button.

    https://x.com/ilunari/status/1791379...j9zlB3lU338G_w
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Translation clarified on Twitter, it will not turn 1-2-3 into one button.

    https://x.com/ilunari/status/1791379...j9zlB3lU338G_w
    Exactly. With this setting, the current combos we have will not overwrite existing buttons/abilities anymore, we can give them separate hotkeys.
    This makes me happy because I hate that RDM's Scorch and Resolution share the same button and they both overwrite Jolt.

    Pressing the same few buttons over and over again is extremely boring to me, which is why I don't play healers and PvP! I want to press dozens of buttons! But if people want to press less buttons that's okay too, that's why options are good! This new in-game setting is a good start, hopefully SE will improve it in the future and even let people turn 1-2-3 combos into 1-1-1 if they want. It's all good as long as it's optional.
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    Last edited by Erinellza; 05-18-2024 at 01:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Translation clarified on Twitter, it will not turn 1-2-3 into one button.

    https://x.com/ilunari/status/1791379...j9zlB3lU338G_w
    That person doesn't work for square enix and if you watch the viper demo they are wrong. It clearly has the combo string on one button.

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    So just to confirm this doesn’t mean I can do for example my 1-2-3 combo on Machinist with just one button
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    You likely can’t do that. Let’s wait until the end of media tour period and you should get your answers"

    Like, it's easy to make stuff up based on what you want to hear but unofficial speculation is all it is. If you look at the viper gameplay like I said, it is most likely that you can in fact tie combos together on one button.
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    How would this work for jobs with branching paths? The only jobs that are strictly 1-2-3 are tanks, RPR, MCH, and RDM laughable 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    How would this work for jobs with branching paths? The only jobs that are strictly 1-2-3 are tanks, RPR, MCH, and RDM laughable 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8
    Tbh looking over the footage again, It's hard to tell if they in fact did put a 123 on the "auto function". It appears to only apply to skills that have procs or buffs that allow them to be used. ie , Ikishoten -> Ogi , Devilment -> starfall dance, etc.

    The only two examples that we were shown were viper and picto. But all of Vipers combo routes were done via buffs in the hud, not how typical combos are done, but more similar to procs. Pictos weaponskill combo was also a 3 stack buff.

    So far from what I've seen Viper might not even have a typical 123 combo. The dual blade combo also wasn't a 123 , though they were placed on 123, the 1 gave a buff that opened up the other two abilities, when one of those abilities were hit they gave another buff that opened up other abilities, and their followups were via three skills that seemed similar to continuation on GNB

    It is possible that they could move 123 combos to this system still, or that some 123s could be changed to be like Viper, but at this stage I'm inclined to believe that we don't have enough information and that the 123's might still be there, while proc based skills have been condensed to make more room.
    The only reason to not use the system would be if you were scared of accidentally spending a proc/buff you didn't want to or something from what I can tell.

    Overall it would seem like a good change to me.
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    The way I understood it is it being a system that will let you choose rather flexibly how you want actions to be represented that are directly chained to each other.

    Using Dragoon as an example, Jump/High Jump is the only way to access Mirage Dive, so you can use this system to make High Jump turn into Mirage Dive when under "Mirage Dive ready) or you can keep the hotkeys separate, depending on your preference. Same will likely apply to the combo paths for Heaven's Thrust, Chaotic Spring and Coerthan Torment.

    So putting aside regular combo actions, this will give you flexibility for the following actions:
    • PLD - possibly Requiescat -> Confiteor -> Blade combo + Atonement combo, Fight or Flight -> Goring Blade
    • WAR - possibly Inner Release -> Primal Rend -> new finisher OR Inner Release into new action for using 3x beast action under IR
    • DRK - Living Shadow new continuing action
    • GNB - new Bloodfest combo, No Mercy -> Sonic Break
    • SAM - Ikishoten (+50 gauge) -> Ogi Namikiri -> Kaeshi: Namikiri, Meikyo Shisui -> Tsubame Gaeshi
    • RPR - Arcane Circle -> Plentiful Harvest, Enshroud -> Communio
    • MNK - new Riddle bonus actions each, rest unsure
    • NIN - Bunshin -> Phantom Kamaitachi
    • BRD - Wanderer's Minuet -> Pitch Perfect, Apex Arrow -> Blast Arrow, Radiant Finale -> new finisher
    • MCH - either Turret/Queen -> Overdrive or Automaton Queen -> new missile barrage finisher, reassambled: Chainsaw -> Chainsaw 2 (possibly other powertools as well), Hypercharge -> Heat Blast/Auto Crossbow
    • DNC - Devilment -> Starfall Dance, Fan Dance I/II -> FD III, Flourish -> FD IV or new Flourish bonus action, Saber Dance -> Saber Dance 2
    • BLM - Ley Lines -> Moving Leylines or Between the Lines, Fire IV <-> Blizzard IV, Flare <-> Freeze, Despair <-> Umbral Soul (all depending on current aspect)
    • SMN - Summon Bahamut/Phoenix/Solar Bahamut -> their respective Enkindle, Searing Light -> new combo action
    • RDM - melee combo, aoe combo
    • WHM - Presence of Mind -> new PoM attack action
    • SCH - Chain Stratagem -> new CS attack action
    • AST - Divination -> new Div. attack action(?)

    This list is SPECULATIVE and not indicative of the final product but what can be expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Translation clarified on Twitter, it will not turn 1-2-3 into one button.

    https://x.com/ilunari/status/1791379...j9zlB3lU338G_w
    I thought this was what it meant at first too… sad they couldn’t make it both ways. Maybe they’ll make it an option in the future though, now that they’ve opened the door.
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