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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    Sadly its the opposite though many, especially those with disabilities would love a 1-1-1 for the basic. I think this should be a option. They seemingly look at what plugins people use and a quick google search shows that 1-1-1 like pvp is popular. I am sure they have reasons to be against it but if its something thats helps people why not? People who dont want to do it can just disable it while people that could get a use out of it could have an easier time playing.
    As someone with disabilities, I find this will help alot with my dislike for combat as there's too many buttons and I cannot move around the kboard fast enough for those skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    No to pvp combos, never pvp combos, remove combos entirely from the game before that happens.
    You are a heck of a gatekeeper in alot of things including optional options, you are an extremely selfish individual and there's not just you, I see a few contenders on these forums for that, as someone who doesnt usually participate in the forums and I have been playing ffxiv since day one im open to options for people, you people are gatekeepers and thankfully a very tiny minority in your elitist attitudes.
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    Last edited by Kathryn; 05-22-2024 at 03:43 PM.

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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    As someone with disabilities, I find this will help alot with my dislike for combat as there's too many buttons and I cannot move around the kboard fast enough for those skills.



    You are a heck of a gatekeeper in alot of things including optional options, you are an extremely selfish individual and there's not just you, I see a few contenders on these forums for that, as someone who doesnt usually participate in the forums and I have been playing ffxiv since day one im open to options for people, you people are gatekeepers and thankfully a very tiny minority in your elitist attitudes.
    You've been playing this game since day one and yet:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Yeah I don't like the combat in this game, its too sluggish, prefer WoW's combat, but I sure do love crafting and gathering, apart from hides/monster parts and skins :/
    The only one gatekeeping you here is yourself, how the hell can you prefer WoW a game where the slowest specs require 2 times the APM of an XIV job but somehow combos are now suddenly too much? You just admitted you just straight up don't like the combat, no amount of simplification or merging is gonna change that.

    And that goes to all you Expert roulette mains and Normal warriors I'm tired of pretending I care about you, you're never gonna actually dive in and do harder content you're just gonna continue shitting your pants in normal raids even when jobs are down to 1 button and all the stress has been hyper-migrated to the high-end content which will have 30 body checks per second and 10 different types of hello limit cuts with 2 rows of debuffs and you've successfully created your own personal hell which you will never even dare to participate in.
    And don't give me that elitist crap I'm semi casual or midcore at most, I just happen to actually do things when I log in. and I want my jobs to be fun and engaging for when I have spend 100 hours wiping.

    also thank god this dumb button merging has almost been confirmed to have been a translation error and won't work on weaponskill combos, it's only gonna be for specific abilities and spells. We may have 1 more expansion before we are tortured like healers.
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 05-22-2024 at 04:48 PM.

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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
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    Awww the combat in ffxiv is awful, and I see you here CRYING everyday and defending bad systems (I should also point out You literally live on these forums from my POV) , luckily as I said your kind are a minority and just very vocal but if everythings so good right now why are you here ALL THE TIME?

    Oh also nice post stalking my point still stands, welcome to ignore.
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    Last edited by Kathryn; 05-22-2024 at 05:46 PM.

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    Tyintheron's Avatar
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    Justarian Demarius
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    And that goes to all you Expert roulette mains and Normal warriors I'm tired of pretending I care about you, you're never gonna actually dive in and do harder content you're just gonna continue shitting your pants in normal raids <SNIP>
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    And don't give me that elitist crap I'm semi casual or midcore at most
    This is great.

    I, for one, certainly appreciate your strong stance against disability-friendly features based on not wanting your raids to get messed up by... <checks notes> ...ah, yes... by "pants-shitting normal players you don't even care about."

    Did I get that right? I'm pretty sure that was the gist.

    Here's some honest life advice: you need to de-couple your sense of self from whether or not you can complete video game raids on "Savage." Because one day this could happen:


    ((TIME WARP NOISE))

    "I'm home! I picked up the groceries, honey!"

    "Thanks, sweetheart! So glad you're home! I missed you, my little nutterbutter!"

    "I missed you too, love of my life!"

    "Hey, so, schnooky-wooky - you used to play Final Fantasy 14, didn't you?"

    "Oh, yeah! That was a lot of fun!"

    "What was your character's name?"

    "Zira Zira, I think..?"

    "Haha, cute name!"

    "Thanks, I liked it! It was... what are you doing..?"

    "I was just looking it up in Google! Wanted to see what you got up... to... when..."

    "...Sch... schnookums..?"

    "This... this can't be right. This says... there's someone with that name raging out on their forums. That... that wasn't you, right..?"

    "Hah. Haha. Me? No."

    "But... they have that name."

    "It must have been someone else!"

    "But... there's only one 'Zira Zira' in the whole game!"

    "..."

    "...and here she keeps talking about people crapping their pants! You KNOW how strongly I feel about pants-crapping jokes after that after the incident I had at Six Flags!"

    "...honey, it was a long, long time ago! I..!"

    "And after that OTHER incident I had at Denny's that time!"

    "And at the beach."

    "...and at the beach!"

    "And at Kroger."

    "I HAVE VERY SENSITIVE BOWELS."

    "It's what I love about you!"

    "DON'T PATRONIZE ME!"

    "B-but, my cuddle bear, I..!"

    "I... I'm sorry! I didn't mean to snap! But I... I really need to think about this. You're not the person I thought you were."

    "N-no! I'm not like that any more!"

    "I don't know. I need time to think. I'm taking the kids and heading to my parents' place for a while."

    "No! You can't take Blodwyn and Stubert!"

    "I'm sorry. I just... I feel very strongly about this. Especially after that time it happened at my cousin's wedding."

    "And our wedding."

    "You said you loved me MORE for that! WHO EVEN ARE YOU?!"

    <TIME WARP NOISE>


    So I guess what I'm saying is: I like this as a feature, if for no other reason than disability accessability. And my pants are fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyintheron View Post
    This is great.
    im sorry/happy that happened to you
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    Astronis Smythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    As someone with disabilities, I find this will help alot with my dislike for combat as there's too many buttons and I cannot move around the kboard fast enough for those skills.
    MMO mice are excellent accessibility devices. I use one for just this reason.

    Anyhow, on the topic, I would imagine having a 1-2-3 combo on one button would present issues when an enemy dodges an attack. This does happen--what then, would happen to the combo? Would you have to commit to following it through even though you've lost all potency and combo benefits, or would it automatically reset for you?
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    Last edited by Astronis; 05-24-2024 at 10:00 AM.

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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    MMO mice are excellent accessibility devices. I use one for just this reason.

    Anyhow, on the topic, I would imagine having a 1-2-3 combo on one button would present issues when an enemy dodges an attack. This does happen--what then, would happen to the combo? Would you have to commit to following it through even though you've lost all potency and combo benefits, or would it automatically reset for you?
    A combo automatically breaks if it was dodged, therefore it would automatically go back to step 1.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Unironically they should remove unbranching basic combos, they bring literally nothing. No choice, no agency, failure state is just to misclick a skill at best.
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    Kohl Grimalkin
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    Coeurl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Unironically they should remove unbranching basic combos, they bring literally nothing. No choice, no agency, failure state is just to misclick a skill at best.
    All non-branching combos should be given the option of being a single button (for the same reason), and we should be given other WS options that have more additional effects when used in creative orders. Like a burst of sorts.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    You have two enemies, one is at one HP, the other is full. You are at the end of your combo. You could use the combo finisher on the damaged mob, wasting potency or you could reset by going to the combo starter which would allow you to start attacking the second mob with the higher damage combo 2 button. DPS gained.

    This is a niche situation, but there are drawbacks to forced combos. They are less interesting to play in my opinion and they take away optimization options.
    It makes more sense in this situation to swap to the target with higher health with your combo finisher.

    Like roughly say we are a samurai,

    You can get 380 + 200 = 580 from Gekko into Hakaze (+15 kenki)
    or you can get.. 200 + 280 = 480 for Hakaze into Jinpu/Shifu (+10 kenki)

    I don't see why you would ever divert down to a first step combo, its just a direct potency loss. You're losing 5 kenki and 100 potency.
    This isn't even mentioning that you'd lose a sen.

    If this situation were an auto combo you would just finish the auto combo, it would be silly to go back to hakaze when you have gekko/kasha ready.

    That's assuming a two target situation as well, if it were any higher we'd just use aoe combo, and that's really simple as well, mangetsu into fuga is going to just be better than fuga into fuga.

    2(90 x 3(n) ) vs 90x3(n) + 120 x3(n)
    and 10 kenki vs 15 kenki.

    I'm sure we could look at other jobs and see similar situations.

    I'm not exactly for auto combos 100% but its hard to see how restarting at first step combos is beneficial.

    I think it's great they've given it as an optional choice, best of both worlds.
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    Last edited by Cynric; 05-18-2024 at 02:27 AM.

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