The devs look foolish for NOT removing Resurrection/Verraise from SMN and RDM

[Erinellza]

RDM main here, if they removed my Verraise I would rage quit, lol. One of the reasons why I love RDM is because I can save my clumsy PUGs from wipes without having to play a boring healer!

[Axxion]

is it wrong to say i was waiting for this to pop up again? every time an expansion shows the jobs this topic always shows up?

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

RDM has had access to healing magic from straight up the very first game in the series, this is like saying "casters don't wield swords" (another thing RDM has done since, literally, FF1)

[SenzorialBoundries]

while i can see the argument for removing res from summoner as its just a relict of a bygone age and just a vestige of arcanist, removing verraise is dumb its part of rdms core identity

[Chasingstars]

And technically, if you cared so much about such small details in the identity of jobs, what about Paladin? Why doesn't Paladin have a Raise?

Good question since its one of Cecil's spells he learns at level 40.

SE has constantly removed small pieces of identities from jobs over the years in pursuit to contest the meta (Their biggest sin is DRK in StB). The biggest change that you could make to help your attempt to fight class imbalance in the meta, is to remove the raises from SMN and RDM.

You don't like them removing aspects of jobs but you want them to remove aspects of job? This just seems self-destructive. Especially since red mage has always been a job since its inception 1987 as one who can use both white and black magic, especially with the raise spell.

[AmiableApkallu]

Good question since its one of Cecil's spells he learns at level 40.

That depends on which Cecil you're talking about.

[Rueby]

Did someone force you to play RDM/SMN instead of BLM during prog or what's the cause for this intense hatred for the other casters having a raise? If not then why are you so upset over jobs that you don't play? Do you want to play other jobs but don't want the 'I have to raise'? Just communicate with your static's healers...

[Chasingstars]

That depends on which Cecil you're talking about.

Fair lol, meant his paladin self.

[jdgev]

Foolish? Your argument is the most immature thing ever lol...

You are arguing for removing the uniqueness of jobs for the sake of "balance", aka, "Please, it's not fair that other jobs have what I don't daddy please fix"

You don't even play the jobs you are talking about lmao XD just another jealous black mage. There is no need for every caster to be the same, would be boring.

EDIT: Also "Casters are not healers"... eh yes they are lmao? Summoner and Red mage have ALWAYS had res and heals. Just because you play BLM and only care about unga bunga damage doesn't mean every caster should be the same. There is 0 reason to remove support skills from those jobs and everyone arguing for it are either 1) jelly blackmages or 2) red mages who rather play something else with higher dps but are to lazy to actually go play it.

They did say they were considering removing res from SMN but that's only because of PICTO coming in. PICTO will be support oriented and SMN will become more damage oriented than PICTO is. Damage will go BLM > SMN > PIC > RDM likely, so it would make less sense for SMN to keep it's res. Red mage? Yeah res isn't going away or limited anytime soon, thankfully.

[Kuroka]

I think if they take my verraise from me, ill just stop playing lol

Its a mix of black and white mage - if anything it needs at least one more heal, aoe hot or something...