Thread: Sage 7.0 Preliminary Feedback

Originally Posted by ty_taurus

5. Take inspiration from Gunbreaker when planning for 8.0. Gunbreaker is also not a DPS, but has a playstyle designed to be aggressive and feel like a DPS.

My friend in Hydaelyn. Gunbreaker does not have an "aggressive" playstyle.

An aggressive tank would have its ability to protect other party members depend on it's ability to hold aggro and deal damage. PLD's auto-attacks feeding into Oath feeding into Intervention (or Cover). DRK's MP regen attacks feeding into TBN. Those are both far more aggressive than anything in GNB's kit.

GNB is little more than a disconnected collection of damage dealing buttons and utility buttons. There's less connection than WHM's Misery, SCH's Energy Drain, and SGE's Toxicon.

I just want an instant addersgall to addersting skill, give it a hefty cd dont care just... Gib Me Et!...

Yeah you're spot-on with the lily gauge comparison. It was awful when that came out and I was playing whm at that time and we had this gauge that could only progress through abilities we really didn't use. Now sge has the same problem with Addersting. Addersting acquisition just isn't integrated well into the flow of the skills that are actually used. I'm hoping that just like lilies were improved, we'll see something done about Addersting.

I feel like SGE already won as far as healers are concerned for having a new offensive action that is not gated behind a ridiculous cooldown.

Ideally, the AoE DoT will still be worth using in single target scenarios like Aero III was and stack with Eukrasian Dosis (Seems likely considering you can still see it expiring after the new DoT is applied in the trailer), but even if that isn't the case I'll at least have something else to press during dungeon spam.

Originally Posted by Allegor

Eukrasian Dyskrasia's (lol) dot is a whole other spell from Eukrasian Dosis, so they should be stackable. GNB and PLD back when Goring Blade was a dot stack without issue.

The question remains whether it’s a gain over Dosis casts in ST situations. If it’s a loss then they would’ve missed the mark cause it’ll be another ‘dead AoE button’ in bosses.

Originally Posted by KageTokage

I feel like SGE already won as far as healers are concerned for having a new offensive action that is not gated behind a ridiculous cooldown.

I don’t really care who won the bread lottery at the shelter. Because these jobs are still malnourished and in need of shelter, and until they are housed and well fed, I will continue to ask for better treatment.

I'm glad that Sage got 3/3 all things I really wanted for the job. The only thing that I would like to see now is a spell that procs multiple Kardion ticks. Something that multi hits for sure and optionally might act like a Six-Sided Star, long GCD recovery for fun and weaving in extra OGCDs.