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  1. #121
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    This is genuinely the closest I have ever been to dropping the healer role because it’s become worse than a joke

    Did yall see the tank changes

    Mitigation on the 2 minutes is being bumped up to 40% and every tank is basically getting another tanks short mitigation effect on their long mitigation
    PLD getting a shield
    WAR getting a regen (seriously another regen)
    DRK getting an excog stronger than our critcog
    GNB getting thrill

    Genuinely do they not see that lowering the skill floor this fight isn’t fun except for anyone that is still struggling to heal a tank that heals themselves because they can’t read their tooltips
    Damn they putting you guys out of a job pretty soon aoe healing is all you going to be doing cause there will be no reason to single heal a tank.
    Then again once I saw that whm got the sage treatment with the gap closer and sch got the whm wing transformation treatment, Im not surprised anymore.
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  2. #122
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Can't wait for people to tell us "You're going to need all those tools, damage is going to go up SO HIGH!!! Trust me, bro!!! They'll definitely make things hit harder this time!!!!!11!!!!"
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    This is genuinely the closest I have ever been to dropping the healer role because it’s become worse than a joke

    Did yall see the tank changes

    Mitigation on the 2 minutes is being bumped up to 40% and every tank is basically getting another tanks short mitigation effect on their long mitigation
    PLD getting a shield
    WAR getting a regen (seriously another regen)
    DRK getting an excog stronger than our critcog
    GNB getting thrill

    Genuinely do they not see that lowering the skill floor this fight isn’t fun except for anyone that is still struggling to heal a tank that heals themselves because they can’t read their tooltips
    I've already locked in melee for this first tier+ulti, but even then looking at the changes they're getting I'd be surprised if I even want to play this game period by 7.2. None of the things I found fun about this game remain. You get your YoshiP mandated standard rotation with zero room for optimization or customization, a one-size-fits-all style of job design, and tanks tumbling over themselves to decide who can invalidate an entire quarter of the party the hardest. If fights aren't borderline lethal with how much damage they're pumping out, I will never defend these devs again. I wanted to believe they knew what they were doing. I really, really did. I had fought for them so many times before this. Insisting that the ShB changes, even to a point the EW changes were good. Just new starting points, just improving ease of use... I honestly feel betrayed for it. I've never been spit in the face harder as an active player than this.
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    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

  4. #124
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    I wanted to believe they knew what they were doing. I really, really did. I had fought for them so many times before this. Insisting that the ShB changes, even to a point the EW changes were good. Just new starting points, just improving ease of use... I honestly feel betrayed for it. I've never been spit in the face harder as an active player than this.
    I was fine waiting to see how they expand the jobs after ShB, if it was a new start, I didn't really mind as long as the jobs would get built up over time.

    But then EW came. Healers were made even easier to play, tanks started becoming more immortal, MCH literally got 1 singular button to add to their completely gutted kit, and if you look at MNK's skill list, they literally got nothing from 81-90, not a single button to evolve their kit (you can argue that MNK got a rework, but people who levelled MNK in EW would get nothing in that level range).

    I expected nothing from DT and they still managed to disappoint me.
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  5. #125
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Can't wait for people to tell us "You're going to need all those tools, damage is going to go up SO HIGH!!! Trust me, bro!!! They'll definitely make things hit harder this time!!!!!11!!!!"
    Pretty sure we’ll get “Stand in X location or you explode”-696969 times over instead.

    What healing? Lmao.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  6. #126
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I don’t know if “look healing is so easy now” Will he enough to pull people away from pictomancer but at this point I genuinely hope it isn’t. I really want the DPS mains to suffer with their queue times to finally show people this broken role can’t keep getting ignored and that hitting your roles skill ceiling in sastasha isn’t a sustainable design route
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I don’t know if “look healing is so easy now” Will he enough to pull people away from pictomancer but at this point I genuinely hope it isn’t. I really want the DPS mains to suffer with their queue times to finally show people this broken role can’t keep getting ignored and that hitting your roles skill ceiling in sastasha isn’t a sustainable design route
    Oh but the DPS players won't be suffering, that's what the Trusts system is for.

    It's only when people want to raid that they'll suffer the wait times and questionable new healers. But the community already believes that the raiding playerbase is so small that they don't matter anyway.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I don’t know if “look healing is so easy now” Will he enough to pull people away from pictomancer but at this point I genuinely hope it isn’t. I really want the DPS mains to suffer with their queue times to finally show people this broken role can’t keep getting ignored and that hitting your roles skill ceiling in sastasha isn’t a sustainable design route
    Nah, when they start complaining about queue times YoshiP will just hit them with the 'have you considered trusts?' Trusts are so clearly the bandaid solution to the problem they created out of sheer laziness and an unwillingness to put effort into making jobs actually fun to play instead of just being 'easy to use'. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive. Anyone who plays Rabbit & Steel for an hour would learn this. Or hell, even just FF14 PvP.
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    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    Nah, when they start complaining about queue times YoshiP will just hit them with the 'have you considered trusts?' Trusts are so clearly the bandaid solution to the problem they created out of sheer laziness and an unwillingness to put effort into making jobs actually fun to play instead of just being 'easy to use'. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive. Anyone who plays Rabbit & Steel for an hour would learn this. Or hell, even just FF14 PvP.
    Can you do expert roulettes with trusts? I honestly forgot.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Can you do expert roulettes with trusts? I honestly forgot.
    No you can’t.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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