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    Player
    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Shadowflare - Ward Miasma II, Plot Broil IV
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Can you do expert roulettes with trusts? I honestly forgot.
    No you can’t.
    (1)

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Kissune's Avatar
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    Character
    Leona Lunasch
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Embargo lifted, it's confirmed.
    Astral Draw:
    The Balance - 6% on melee/tank, 3% on ranged/healer
    The Arrow - 10% healing action output increase
    The Spire - 400 potency barrier (lol. lmao)
    Lord

    Umbral Draw
    The Spear - 3% on melee/tank, 6% on ranged/healer
    The Bole - 10% mit
    The Ewer - 200p 15s HoT

    Unbelievable. I was hoping it wasn't true but MAN these are the dullest effects they could have picked.
    And what new abilities do we get? I'm so glad you asked!

    A 600p followup to divination, and 10% mit addition to neutral sect. That's... that's it. A couple potency increases, new vfx for asp. helios, and a 3rd ED charge. That's it. Enjoy the next 3 years of astrologian. I'm just in awe at how much square enix doesn't want people to actually think while playing this game. We get refluffed versions of skills we already had as cards, some flashy vfx, a 10% mit and a 2min CD single use dps spell. Please look forward to it.
    (7)
    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Malboro
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    Character
    Mitsuki Akiyumi
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    Embargo lifted, it's confirmed.
    Astral Draw:
    The Balance - 6% on melee/tank, 3% on ranged/healer
    The Arrow - 10% healing action output increase
    The Spire - 400 potency barrier (lol. lmao)
    Lord

    Umbral Draw
    The Spear - 3% on melee/tank, 6% on ranged/healer
    The Bole - 10% mit
    The Ewer - 200p 15s HoT

    Unbelievable. I was hoping it wasn't true but MAN these are the dullest effects they could have picked.
    And what new abilities do we get? I'm so glad you asked!

    A 600p followup to divination, and 10% mit addition to neutral sect. That's... that's it. A couple potency increases, new vfx for asp. helios, and a 3rd ED charge. That's it. Enjoy the next 3 years of astrologian. I'm just in awe at how much square enix doesn't want people to actually think while playing this game. We get refluffed versions of skills we already had as cards, some flashy vfx, a 10% mit and a 2min CD single use dps spell. Please look forward to it.
    I knew it would still be around 6%. Called it. Also Spire being only a 400 shield potency might as well not even exist, health pools are gonna be in the 100ks one auto and that thing is more than gone.
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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaeya Alberich
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    At this point I think I'll just stick with pvp because even with their three skills pvp healers are the most fun I've ever had when it comes to healing in this game. :|

    I know pvp and pve are fundamentally different game modes but it is astounding that their respective healer counterparts are so far apart when it comes to fun, challenge, and rewarding game play...
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Aug 2021
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    In the burst window now you only need to press

    1 spear
    1 astral draw
    1 balance
    1 lord
    1 divination
    1 star
    1 divination follow up

    Since Divination is now 20 seconds you will likely play spear, then astral draw, then divination, then balance with star already pre prepped, sub follow up and lord can be pressed whenever

    Seems like lightspeed isn’t needed but potentially still a slight gain to put more of spear inside divination but only if you don’t need it elsewhere
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Kissune's Avatar
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    Character
    Leona Lunasch
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    In the burst window now you only need to press

    1 spear
    1 astral draw
    1 balance
    1 lord
    1 divination
    1 star
    1 divination follow up

    Since Divination is now 20 seconds you will likely play spear, then astral draw, then divination, then balance with star already pre prepped, sub follow up and lord can be pressed whenever

    Seems like lightspeed isn’t needed but potentially still a slight gain to put more of spear inside divination but only if you don’t need it elsewhere
    don't even have to manually reactivate star with a 10s prepull. Give how most fights probably still open with a raidwide, you can just do it prepull if needed.

    So playx2, divi, oracle, lord, draw. 6 weaves? Yea, we can ditch lightspeed. That's less weaves than scholar does lmao.
    (0)
    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

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    Xelanar's Avatar
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    Character
    Xelanar Fhey
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post

    Since Divination is now 20 seconds you will likely play spear, then astral draw, then divination, then balance with star already pre prepped, sub follow up and lord can be pressed whenever

    Seems like lightspeed isn’t needed but potentially still a slight gain to put more of spear inside divination but only if you don’t need it elsewhere


    I definitely know what I will play. A different Job xD.
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Character
    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I wonder why they didn't make the card buff last 20s like every other buff?
    The range card will always fall a bit short since it'll be 1 gcd before the raid buff and last 5s less than regular burst window. Most burst are done in less than 15s but still.
    (1)

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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    J'thaldi Rhid
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    People keep acting like the job will be just as busy as before, but it's undeniably been slowed down.

    You don't have nearly as many weaves as before because you only need to play 3 cards during burst (Spear, Balance and Lord).

    People still acting as if you have to play all 4 cards of both draws every 2 minutes and you still absolutely need Lightspeed. Very funny.
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    Ayche's Avatar
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    Character
    Aychelle Tripler
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    People keep acting like the job will be just as busy as before, but it's undeniably been slowed down.

    You don't have nearly as many weaves as before because you only need to play 3 cards during burst (Spear, Balance and Lord).

    People still acting as if you have to play all 4 cards of both draws every 2 minutes and you still absolutely need Lightspeed. Very funny.
    Did I misread the tooltip? Astral and Umbral draw share recasts, balance and spear are 60 seconds apart.
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