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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Sure... let's ignore FFXI SMN exists. It is a pet job. The egis of ARR up to HW is expected as you do not expect to summon primals at 50. They started with Bahamut at 70. I was fine with that but no.. they made the egis and carbuncle do nothing. Took out the pet management and then the disrespect up to DT. It is not acceptable. If you didn't like the pet management, it's fine.. but rejoicing to the point they removed it and then give a blanket statement of feeling sorry for people who thoroughly enjoyed old summoner is just insulting. If you truly are sorry you will not follow up with a shallow statement of feeling sorry and just keep your praising of the new summoner.

    Edit.. btw, before being able to summon the big ones, you have elemental spirits you have no control of what they cast, have atrocious perpetuation costs and the only thing you could summon that isn't an elemental spirit was.... Carbuncle. You fight with Carbuncle in the trials to be able to summon Ifrit, Shiva, Garuda, etc... that's what's expected in FFXIV... but no.. this gutted version of SMN is clearly a downgrade... oh wait Yuna on FFX also summons Aeons as pets. Funny
    My only praise of the the removal of XIV's old summoner was the dot mechanic. I agree with your statement though, that a blanket statement like removal of other aspects of the job then add an apology at the end is insulting. That's not my intention as I am genuinely sad to see anyone lose a job that they had fun with as I experienced that during iterations of XIV's job streamline / update as well. I didn't mean to say there were no positives to the old XIV summoner, just that I truly do detest the dots from the old job being tacked onto the very traditional / classic job of FF Summoner. Even in that, I completely concede that's a closeminded / old way of thinking. There could definitely be ways bring in new additions to the traditional class that I would never have thought of as "summoner." I think a better statement would be, I want to see the traditional summoner first (all the summons, not just a bahamut mage) before seeing them adjust what I have seen as classic summoner. Probably an even better statement would be to see both at the same time. Either way, just some thoughts out loud.

    I loved FFXI summoner for the era that was in. Of course, that idea would need to be updated, and there have been so many exceptional posts in this thread alone that could do that. I truly hope SE is listening, because this thread along with the others in response to the job trailer alone could truly make this job shine.
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    Last edited by LittleArrow; 05-23-2024 at 02:26 AM.